Memories are short - O'Toole campaign

[Sundog57]

I got an email today from the the O'Toole campaign in the name of Fed DeLorey slagging Peter MacKay and exposing a "secret deal" to let some ex-Liberal into a position of power.

This is my response:
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Hey Fred
Don’t be such a dumb ass
No matter what you think of Peter MacKay, slagging him does nothing to promote party unity which we need to defeat the smiling wanker currently sitting in the PM’s chair
Also don’t forget that MacKay came to a deal with Harper that allowed the Conservative Party – that would be OUR TEAM to take government for 11 years
I am not sure who you are trying to convince but if you are acting on behalf of Mr O’Toole you are not promoting his cause
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If these AHs don't stop trying to trash each other, we're in Turd land forever.

[Parker Hale]

I would also send it to O'Toole as well as MacKay.

[mediumrare]

I got the same letter except it was a paper copy from the post office.otooles campaign seems to be doing the dirtiest campaigning of all the leaders imo.be interesting to see him try and unite the party if he does win the leadership.yes memories are short.without mackay the two right parties still wouldn’t likely be united

[Twisted Canuck]

Ha! And I got a letter from the McKay crowd talking about O'Tooles support of a carbon tax. I can't stand any of them. When I got a call from Lewis's camp the other day asking for my support, I told the lady flat out that I would no longer support the CPC, and the only thing I will donate to is a viable separatist party. The CPC is just going to keep moving left and pandering to Quebec to try and garner enough seats to be In Power. The don't give a rip about representing the people who are actually conservative. They are all worthless.

[Rackmastr]

I got my ballot the other day and the only thing that feels right is spoiling it right now. What a joke of a leadership race.

[Twisted Canuck]

Originally Posted by Rackmastr

I got my ballot the other day and the only thing that feels right is spoiling it right now. What a joke of a leadership race.

Totally agree. The few MPs that I felt would actually be good leaders, didn't run....Pollievre would have been the best bet imo. I've given up on the CPC. Not unlike Jay Hill.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/calgarys...ays-canada/amp

[elkhunter11]

I have spent the last week blocking phone numbers and unsubscribing from various e-mails. Once again, it's not choosing the best candidate, it choosing the lesser of the evils. Although I really don't like any of the candidates , I really don't want to see McKay leading the party.

[260 Rem]

Makay has the best chance attracting Eastern seats...and therefore more chance of forming Gov. Insuring a CPC win is more important than choosing a leader that can’t win.

[mediumrare]

Originally Posted by 260 Rem

Makay has the best chance attracting Eastern seats...and therefore more chance of forming Gov. Insuring a CPC win is more important than choosing a leader that can’t win.

This is it exactly

[Phil]

I joined the Conservative party this year so I could have a vote in the Leadership race. My mind was made up from day 1 to support McKay but I have now reached the point where I don't want to support any of them.

I recieved an email from the CNFA attributing the following statement to McKay.

“The goals of gun control legislation should be to ensure that... assault rifles and automatic weapons will be banned.”

This ensures he is removed from my potential leader list. Doesn't leave me with much for choices.

Phil

[Lefty-Canuck]

You know things are bad when you think Scheer is looking to be the best and you feel he should stick around.

LC

[mediumrare]

Originally Posted by Phil

I joined the Conservative party this year so I could have a vote in the Leadership race. My mind was made up from day 1 to support McKay but I have now reached the point where I don't want to support any of them.

I recieved an email from the CNFA attributing the following statement to McKay.

“The goals of gun control legislation should be to ensure that... assault rifles and automatic weapons will be banned.”

This ensures he is removed from my potential leader list. Doesn't leave me with much for choices.

Phil

Hmmm aren’t automatic weapons banned already.watch mackays interview with the ccfr that should clear things up

[Ishpah]

I see that Rackmastr has received his ballot package.

I have not so I went to this page, https://www.conservative.ca/membership-check/ , inserted membership # and postal code and got this response, "Sorry, your membership # does not match postal code".

I'll be calling them in the morning at 1-866-808-8407. I would recommend that if you do not receive your ballot package by the beginning of next week you should do the membership test. Actually, you can do that at anytime, but it may explain why you have not received it.

Here is how the voting will be conducted.

https://cpcassets.conservative.ca/wp...1de2ee38db.pdf

As far as MacKay is concerned, I will not be voting for him period The reason IMO ist he sabotaged last October election by criticizing Scheer prior to the polls opening. Scheer actually won the popular vote but lost on the ridings. Had he won, MacKay's hopes of becoming CPC leader would be dashed and the prospect of the position of Prime Minister non existent.

I have been waffling on who I would support. For the most part O'Toole but once in awhile Sloan impresses me.

At first I rejected Sloan because I thought that he was too young, (<30) but then I discovered that he is 35. Young enough to appeal to the younger voters and brazen enough to appeal to the older voters. Might be an interesting "spoiled ballot" scenario. Right Rackmastr?

[Rackmastr]

Originally Posted by Ishpah

I see that Rackmastr has received his ballot package.

I have not so I went to this page, https://www.conservative.ca/membership-check/ , inserted membership # and postal code and got this response, "Sorry, your membership # does not match postal code".

I'll be calling them in the morning at 1-866-808-8407. I would recommend that if you do not receive your ballot package by the beginning of next week you should do the membership test. Actually, you can do that at anytime, but it may explain why you have not received it.

Here is how the voting will be conducted.

https://cpcassets.conservative.ca/wp...1de2ee38db.pdf

As far as MacKay is concerned, I will not be voting for him period The reason IMO ist he sabotaged last October election by criticizing Scheer prior to the polls opening. Scheer actually won the popular vote but lost on the ridings. Had he won, MacKay's hopes of becoming CPC leader would be dashed and the prospect of the position of Prime Minister non existent.

I have been waffling on who I would support. For the most part O'Toole but once in awhile Sloan impresses me.

At first I rejected Sloan because I thought that he was too young, (<30) but then I discovered that he is 35. Young enough to appeal to the younger voters and brazen enough to appeal to the older voters. Might be an interesting "spoiled ballot" scenario. Right Rackmastr?

That's interesting as I've heard others that havent got their ballot yet. I'll pass it along to a few other guys who have mentioned it. I got mine about a week ago now.

Yep, interesting scenarios for sure!!!

[raab]

If the CPC wants to win Sloan needs to be their man.

[Grizzly Adams]

What a joke of a leadership race.

In a Nut Shell. Better resign ourselves to Turdeau as President for Life. Sad.

Grizz

[sirmike68]

Leslyn Lewis is the only chance to dethrone the Turd. Middle aged white guys have fallen out of favour with the liberal/democrat left wingers worldwide and those are the folks we have to get to vote conservative. I do like O'Toole but the timing can't be better to have an educated black lady go up against the racist black faced Trudeau.

[Rackmastr]

Originally Posted by sirmike68

Leslyn Lewis is the only chance to dethrone the Turd. Middle aged white guys have fallen out of favour with the liberal/democrat left wingers worldwide and those are the folks we have to get to vote conservative. I do like O'Toole but the timing can't be better to have an educated black lady go up against the racist black faced Trudeau.

I refuse to vote for someone based on skin colour and sex. Watching her debate was enough for me to know she would be destroyed in a federal leaders debate. Unfortunately while she seems like a good person she just isn't up to the task.

[The Cook]

Originally Posted by 260 Rem

Makay has the best chance attracting Eastern seats...and therefore more chance of forming Gov. Insuring a CPC win is more important than choosing a leader that can’t win.

Mackay is just another laurentian elite who spends way too much time in the hot tub with justine. If Mackay wins I will be voting independent in the next federal election.

[jungleboy]

Originally Posted by raab

If the CPC wants to win Sloan needs to be their man.

Sloan is unelectable east of Saskatchewan or the west coast. This thread is a perfect example of why we are in for another Liberal Majority or two regardless of how bad they govern. conservatives are famous for eating their own and sabotaging their opportunities. MacKay is the only one of the pack that has a hope of beating the Liberals next time around.

[Ishpah]

Originally Posted by The Cook

Mackay is just another laurentian elite who spends way too much time in the hot tub with justine. If Mackay wins I will be voting independent in the next federal election.

Don't do that, as that is voting for the Liberals. Better to have a Conservative lead government even if it is MacKay at the helm than another 4 years of Turd lead Liberals. Remember that your MP has a voice in the government and he is accountable to his electorate first and party caucus second.

[mediumrare]

I will vote for whoever wins the conservative leadership in the next federal election.anything is better than another term of Trudeau.

[raab]

Originally Posted by sirmike68

Leslyn Lewis is the only chance to dethrone the Turd. Middle aged white guys have fallen out of favour with the liberal/democrat left wingers worldwide and those are the folks we have to get to vote conservative. I do like O'Toole but the timing can't be better to have an educated black lady go up against the racist black faced Trudeau.

No, the people you have to get are Gen Z. Lewis is just another sign of virtue signalling, and it'll fall flat. Gen Z's arent stupid and research everything. I think they may be mislead by some ideologies though. Which is why the CPC needs to elect the guy who's running on his beliefs, and can articulate them. Under Sloan the CPC would have a majority government, I guarantee it.

[raab]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

Sloan is unelectable east of Saskatchewan or the west coast. This thread is a perfect example of why we are in for another Liberal Majority or two regardless of how bad they govern. conservatives are famous for eating their own and sabotaging their opportunities. MacKay is the only one of the pack that has a hope of beating the Liberals next time around.

Sloan was elected in Ontario so that blows that theory out of the water. Sloan would destroy Trudeau and his ideologies in a debate. He'd have major support throughout all demographics as he's not a social conservative.

[jungleboy]

Originally Posted by raab

Sloan was elected in Ontario so that blows that theory out of the water. Sloan would destroy Trudeau and his ideologies in a debate. He'd have major support throughout all demographics as he's not a social conservative.

Elected in eastern Rural Ontario by less than 4% margin. He won when the Con vote increased by .5% over the 2015 election and the Libs dropped while the greens Jumped.

Hardly a cakewalk, and means nothing in the 905.

MacKay will likely bring the Maritimes and much of Ontario

[jungleboy]

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[The Cook]

Tough decision

#1 Lewis
#2 O'Toole
#3 Blank
#4 Blank.

[raab]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

Elected in eastern Rural Ontario by less than 4% margin. He won when the Con vote increased by .5% over the 2015 election and the Libs dropped while the greens Jumped.

Hardly a cakewalk, and means nothing in the 905.

MacKay will likely bring the Maritimes and much of Ontario

Well I won't vote CPC if anyone other then Sloan wins.

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

You know things are bad when you think Scheer is looking to be the best and you feel he should stick around.

LC

X2. Well said

[BC7stw]

Automatic weapons are already banned and we don’t have assault weapons in the public’s gun safes. So, that statement means what, that he supports what we were already doing?