hunting from a tree stand someone else built

Some time back we had a "discussion" as to weather or not it was ok to climb into and hunt from a treestand that someone else had built. (not a portable stand that someone had put up and was "freshly" using)

Here is an older perma-stand that I found while doing some "scouting/shed-hunting/rabbit-hunting/enjoying a day in Gods country". I would have no problem spending some time sitting in this stand and would leave if someone came along and claimed they had built it and wanted to sit in it that day.




Robin

if it's on public property, it's public, and would be pretty tough for even the builder to evict another. However, ettiquite may prevent 'squatting' on anothers stand

"if it's on public property, it's public," Yes i woould sit in it and no i wouldnt move if the builder came by.

If I caught you sitting in my stand I would give you an earfull and maybe even a fistfull. Basically get off your ars and build your own.

Myself and others had this issue many times and most of the time it was with guys to lazy to scout there own areas and build there own treestands.

I've actually met up with hunters telling me that they keep track of parked vehicles in areas and go back to hunt those areas when the same vehicles are gone.

But then again things maybe different here on the East Coast where building treestands on crown land is legal. And with not having the number of deer that you guys have out west finding a good area is hard to come by.

Scott

If I caught you sitting in my stand I would give you an earfull and maybe even a fistfull. Basically get off your ars and build your own.

:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin wouldnt have to build one if i found one crown land its the best.

most of the time it was with guys to lazy to scout there own areas

Maybe they like the same area as you do.:\

sit in that one!!! its a kids fort that you stumbbled onto! bunch of old 2x4's! givver!

Duffy that looks like the ladder only, and if that is the case then someone puts up a portable stand. I would say use it.

As you said we talked on this subject before. As for me I would use them and if some one so chooses they can used the one I put up as well. It dosen't bother me for someone to use the stands I put up. I only want them to use the stand with respect, and to take care of them. Also for there own sake (if they want to see animals) park about 200 -300yards from the stands.

I seen some stands that others put up with signs that say please use with respect, and so I used it. Then I came back some time later to find that someone smashed it to pieces.

Here is something else to consider....many that I came across are abanded and are no longer used by the soul who put it up. Therefore I fix them up and re-use them.

As for being to lazy to put one up...perhaps, but that may not be the case most of the time. I believe (time) is the main factor for most hunters. Some hunters can rarely get out to do any kind of hunting at all....therefore how can they find time to put up a treestand or two.

That is my pennies worth.

If it's a homemade one out of 2 X 4's and pkywood etc. I would use it. A store bought one I would stay away from. I am not a big fan of tree stands anyhow. Those homemade ones are usually there year after year, and some of them are rottien.

Hey Duffy,
Is there an old trappers cabin real close by that stand?

Looks really uncomfortable. The answer to the question is No I would not sit in it. i think If I were to take the time to build a stand and came upon someone in it I would be freaking!!! Can't really call that thing a stand anyways.

There is a bit of a platform at the top of the "ladder". There was no trapper cabin near by.
There was an old faded "bearly" readable "Caution Bear Bait in area" sign close by. And there was an old mettle barrel and some bones on the ground about 100 meters away. (I don't think you could see the barrel area from up in the tree stand)

If I came back for a look in the late summer/early fall and there was anything new looking around the stand I might think someone was going to be using it. Otherwise I would sit in it some Nov. morning looking for a deer to come along or sit in it and rattle antlers.

This stand looks like it has been here awhile but hard to say if it is "abandoned". If the person who put it up left home early in the morning and had a long drive to their favorite hunting area and walked in as legal light was approaching, they would be pretty annoyed to find me in the stand they had built. As a matter of courtesy I would climb down and wisper "good luck, I'll go to another spot" ( I have a few good ones in the area).

Robin

Actually, I think it's illegal to build a permanent structure on public lands. I've seen a few of these in my travels and usually they are long abandoned and forgotten about. I for one, wouldn't sweat it.

Grizz

Would this dilema not be solved with those cheap screw in hooks? Just remove them when you leave and stash them nearby. Kind of a pain, but better than getting your stand hijacked or destroyed.

On a personal note, I would not sit in a stand that looked 'active', even on public land. It's kind of a 'Do unto others....) sort of thing.

I don't think i would mind if some one was sitting in my tree stand, taylor made or home built as long as they didn't break it. I suppose if I had just put it up there, and went back to camp for lunch then came back and found someone there I might have a different mind set, but if I was away for the week and showed up on weekends, I don't think I would mind too much.

I got better things to do, and I come to the bush to get away from the city stuff. For me, Causing an arguement or a fight or worse, just isn't worth it and an afternoon, sitting with my back against a tree,,,elsewhere would be just fine. I would make sure I ran into the guy/gal after to make sure that when he leaves, my tree stand stays!

G-len

Yeah, 61A I like those back trees too, sometimes I fall asleep
Do not attempt in a tree stand..

hunting last year on private land with a couple of homebuilt stands in excellent bush. Everything felt right for a buck to jump out so I slowed to a tiptoe. Then I heard the fence creak so I readied the rifle. I minute later, another hunter crossed 50 yds ahead, heading for the stands. When I was sure he was looking in my direction I gave him a wave. He took off faster than a spooked whitetail, and must have got hung in the fence on his way through. Didn't get the chance to ask if he built them or was just going to 'borrow' them for a sit.

Follow me to some of the places I hunt and I well show you "Treestand Hilton". A chair,table and places to rest your rifle so you can get off a more steady shot. Holds two to three people. Safe to sleep in as well.

We have a dozen stands built on crown land. I can't stop anyone from using them but when we have camp set up and are hunting they best stay out!

I remember reading in the hunting regulations a few years ago that all permanent structures on Crown land are to be removed once the season is over. I believe this includes all homemade tree stands also . I myself monitor these stands in my hunting area and over the years if they aren't being used I just repair them and continue to use them .

You cannot expect to build a permanent stand in a tree on public land and claim to own that stand/tree/location ad infinitum. That is not right. I'll use it and I won't get out for anybody. Now if it was a store bought stand, temporarily placed, I wouldn't use it.

I would use it .

Ya, my time to spend with my persuits is hard fought for. I am willing to assume everyone else is more or less the same. If I put money, time and work into scouting and erecting stands, they better not be occupied when I get there. Home made or otherwise. Do you go stand right beside a man if he beat you into the fishing hole in the morning, or do you give an outdoorsman respect, and space enough to enjoy his time afield. Sorry, alittle off topic there, but hopefully portrays my views. Fellas, ya wont catch me in any of your stands. Thats a guarantee. Once again, homemade or commercial.

keep a strain on er.

Yeah, you are off topic. Nobody climbs into somebody elses stand when the guy is already in his stand (as your fishing analogy implies).

I'm not talking occupied tree stands...and I'm talking public land...

The fishing hole...lol. Does he have a raft permanently anchored out in the bay and that makes it his spot forever...same thing as the woods filled with permanent (lumber) tree stands that are unoccupied.

A guy who puts a tree stand in a tree has no right to claim the surrounding area as his. I've hunted areas for years without a stand.......buddy moves in and erects a permanent (lumber) stand. He's not in it today (or tomorrow or for weeks, or maybe you've never ever seen him). By erecting his stand, even though it doesn't appear that he is actively using it, does that make it his exclusive area now? Maybe I climb in the stand or maybe I hunt from the ground nearby. Do I move just because he shows up? Not. Etiquette says whoever gets there first owns the spot for as long as he is there.....just like you say in your fishing analogy.

If I come across a guy in his stand I'll leave the area right quick. But he can't build a permanent stand in a tree, leave it for years, and call it his stand and his area forever. Sorry, there isn't any unwritten rule, etiquette, law, logic or respect that is going to change that.

The only exceptions I have for this is a bear stand where there is active baiting........If I come across this area I'll leave pronto.......and store bought stands. I won't climb into any of those that aren't mine....after all, the guy may show up and want to take it away.......or there is a note on the stand that says so and so built it and is using it on opening day, or some other period (I'll respect that).

Key to all of this when on public land, expect to see other hunters and keep your head cool to the idea you own none of it.......if you want to see fewer hunters you know you have to go in deeper....

Pretty solid argument Pappy.

keep a strain on er.

Do you go stand right beside a man if he beat you into the fishing hole in the morning,

I won't stand beside him,but if he leaves I won;t hesitate to take his spot.I also won't hesitate to fish where he normally fishes if he isn't there at the time.

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Heres a stand I found a few years back, had two. office chairs a table and ash tray in it. It sat off a lick on a trap line 2km behind a native community I wouldnt sit in that one for fear of getting shot(no joke). For the most part I would stay away from home made stands simply for safety reasons. After 3 or 4 years of wind and rain home made stands could be death traps.

Nice stand. Might be worth fixing up.