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Old 05-24-2012, 09:09 AM
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Just saw this interesting TED talk yesterday about world population. Intriguing for sure.
VERY interesting, thank you very much. I encountered a few thints of his theory here and there, but this provides best representation in clear and 'condensed' form. Brilliant piece indeed.

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Old 05-24-2012, 08:05 PM
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Did any of you actually READ the report in Scientific America? Actually READ all of it, or draw your conclusions and comments made here based on a Pavlovian response that invokes words such as "AGW" and "IPCC" or similar phrases?

No where in the article did they say WHAT the cause of the warming was, just that it WAS. And that the warming is affecting ticks which are a major contributor to the moose dying.

Where is the BAD science in that?



Gore is an idiot, and I've often said the same. How much of the research you read tells us climate change is not a fact, or does it question the cause?



Sure it gets hot as hell in the Okanagan in the summer. The question is, does it get cold enough in winter to negatively affect the ticks?

And access roads makes moose hunting easier. No question. Want to cause a controversy? Just try and close a road that hunters have used for a while!
OK...let's make the leap that this was purely a study on moose populations declining AND that they are declining due to a temp increase. What are we supposed to do about it? Nothing. We can't do anything about it. Global warming/cooling is not affected/caused by humans. It's a naturally occurring phenomenon. Been happening for millennia. It's the naivete of humans that think we happened upon the planet at some sort of steady state nirvanna, and it's up to us to maintain this exact snapshot in time. Put a halt to evolution, preserve every species no matter how unadaptable they may be to a changing climate?

So the moose population is declining. Rises and falls in populations are also natural occurrences in nature. I'd say it's just old Mother Nature weeding out the specimens of the population that are weak, and doing a little housecleaning in the genetic closet. More of a good thing than a bad.

On a lighter note, and tieing it back into AGW hypocrisy (cause it's fun to do).

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Old 05-24-2012, 08:14 PM
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OK...let's make the leap that this was purely a study on moose populations declining AND that they are declining due to a temp increase. What are we supposed to do about it? Nothing. We can't do anything about it. Global warming/cooling is not affected/caused by humans. It's a naturally occurring phenomenon....
Various oil companies appear to differ.
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:23 PM
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Various oil companies appear to differ.
OH WELLLL, if the oil companies say so! How can I disagree with an oil company?

So you agree with oil companies then that all areas that are currently off limits to drilling should be opened up to full natural resource exploitation?


Umm, in case you didn't get the memo, oil companies are evil. Just ask Thomas Mulcair. Are you saying we should trust evil corporations that are evil and likely in league with Lucifer himself?

At any rate...I thought this wasn't about AGW?? But it is now right? OK. Got it.
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