BC Indigenous ban outside sportfishers

[icecap]

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[SageValleyOutdoors]

Thanks to the idiot in ottawa, EVERY SINGLE Indian band across the country is going to do this. And if they don’t get their way, be prepared for rail blockages, port blockages and any other “peaceful protest” they can think of

[SageValleyOutdoors]

Thanks to the idiot in ottawa, EVERY SINGLE Indian band across the country is going to do this. And if they don’t get their way, be prepared for rail blockages, port blockages and any other “peaceful protest” they can think of

[raw outdoors]

Low fish counts in there gill nets sucks for them But it’s there own fault. They don’t play with fish they catch them to feed the dogs. Upset about people sport fishing and releasing fish. Go back to a spear and I won’t fish “ your “ so called river. If they fish with nets and boats with Yamaha motors that is not traditional so I have no sympathy for complaining.

[Supergrit]

I couldn’t read this article but I take it this is about stopping sport fishing for Salomon something that brings in Millions of dollars into bc economy vs natives who net and snag salmon in the spawning rivers. If sport fishing is stopped in BC many people will suffer but I imagine government would side with the small
Minority.
Price of the illegally sold salmon would go up I guess one side will win.

[lastlatvian]

Originally Posted by SageValleyOutdoors

Thanks to the idiot in ottawa, EVERY SINGLE Indian band across the country is going to do this. And if they don’t get their way, be prepared for rail blockages, port blockages and any other “peaceful protest” they can think of

The issue of traditional rights has always been a issue with the first nations that has transcended both conservative and liberal governments for years. Blaming "idiots in Ottawa" really shows your short sighted understanding of the issue. I bet you voted to close our provincial parks too.

[leadpillproductions]

Welcome to canada. Just keep giving and giving that's the canadian government way.what a ****in joke

[Buckhead]

Well I don’t agree with any “Band” telling people what they can or cannot do on one of Canada’s Navigable Water(ways).
That’s stretching their idea of territory a bit far.

[58thecat]

If we were only all treated equally with regards to everything in Canada then we wouldn't have these issues but.......

[SageValleyOutdoors]

Originally Posted by lastlatvian

The issue of traditional rights has always been a issue with the first nations that has transcended both conservative and liberal governments for years. Blaming "idiots in Ottawa" really shows your short sighted understanding of the issue. I bet you voted to close our provincial parks too.

I’ll vote for equality every single time, clever guy... whether one is black, brown, white, Man, woman, straight or gay - NOBODY should have special rights or privileges above another. The democratic rule of law, and the enforcement of that law is what separates us from many 3rd world countries where chaos reigns.
Oh - and before you label me as “just another racist colonial pr*ck” I’ll let you know that I’m Métis, proud of my heritage, and one of the first in my family to get a post secondary education. So I’m neither a racist white supremacist, or an uneducated country bumpkin. If all the indigenous leaders wanted was equality and NOT special treatment, i think the indigenous communities would be far better off.

[fishpro]

My apologies if I missed it, but does anyone know how much and which portions of the Skeena system this affects?

[ehrgeiz]

So I'm trying understand how this works. Members of this FN approach me in their boat while I'm fishing in my boat and tell me to leave. I don't comply and they do what?

[H380]

Originally Posted by SageValleyOutdoors

I’ll vote for equality every single time, clever guy... whether one is black, brown, white, Man, woman, straight or gay - NOBODY should have special rights or privileges above another. The democratic rule of law, and the enforcement of that law is what separates us from many 3rd world countries where chaos reigns.

Oh - and before you label me as “just another racist colonial pr*ck” I’ll let you know that I’m Métis, proud of my heritage, and one of the first in my family to get a post secondary education. So I’m neither a racist white supremacist, or an uneducated country bumpkin. If all the indigenous leaders wanted was equality and NOT special treatment, i think the indigenous communities would be far better off.

You are the reason we.need a like button on this forum ..well said .

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[Buckhead]

Originally Posted by ehrgeiz

So I'm trying understand how this works. Members of this FN approach me in their boat while I'm fishing in my boat and tell me to leave. I don't comply and they do what?

Apparently then they will seize your fishing gear.

[pikergolf]

Put a weak panty waste in charge bad things happen.

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by ehrgeiz

So I'm trying understand how this works. Members of this FN approach me in their boat while I'm fishing in my boat and tell me to leave. I don't comply and they do what?

Only time will tell these issues can range from talking to the extreme when FN try this stuff

I can tell you this much don’t expect much help from the RCMP

[GMX]

Originally Posted by fishpro

My apologies if I missed it, but does anyone know how much and which portions of the Skeena system this affects?

From what i could see its from just outside the east side of Terrace west and north of town up to the mouth of the Nass river. Google earth shows Nisga'a nation land If successful it will quickly become every river along the coast to there headwaters. The Russians have inhabited coastal Alaska and BC for centuries so the full land claim out there is a little BS imo.

Might have to blockade every FN commercial fisherman. In no way is this going to end on a good note.

[lone wolf]

Stopped reading after this “They’re breaking the law by playing with fish, we don’t play with fish, it’s against our culture,” Chief Brian Williams, who also takes the name Simogyat Gwiiyeehl, said in an interview. “When we go fishing, we fish for a reason, and that’s to put food on our table.”

Trying to say they only maintain a "subsistence fishery" on the Skeena . What a load of crap. It's a multi million dollar commercial venture. Not to mention that the nets are completely non-discriminatory when it comes to the size and species of fish harvested. I would love to know what happens to the incidental (non targeted) catch and what the 'stewards of the land' do with it.

[overparr]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck

Only time will tell these issues can range from talking to the extreme when FN try this stuff

I can tell you this much don’t expect much help from the RCMP

Time to Barricade all Casino's

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by overparr

Time to Barricade all Casino's

Won’t do a thing most bands don’t even have casinos

[ehrgeiz]

Will be interesting to see how this plays out indeed. Only way they'd get my tackle without a fight is if they put a rifle on me. And if that starts happening look out cause it's a 2 way street.

[SNAPFisher]

Originally Posted by fishpro

My apologies if I missed it, but does anyone know how much and which portions of the Skeena system this affects?

I located a graphic (attached) and even better is right from the horses mouth:

http://www.gitxsan.com/old/images/st...Fs/gitmap2.pdf

If you zoom in, you will see where Terrace is located below region 1. Also you will see where Smithers is below region 4. I've never fished in the Gitxsan area nor cared to. It is vast though.

[wbl170]

Might be off topic but are any BC indigenous involved in the sport fishing industry. Might be a viable business opportunity for then.

[osterous]

Several out of Rupert (at least there were several years ago). But that's saltwater.

[Big Thumper]

I sometimes feel like a visitor in my own country. We get to work and pay a tremendous amount of taxes, but we can be banned from 33,000 km2 by a FN band? So, we can pay taxes but we are not really full citizens? Slavery....

[Hooter]

Originally Posted by SageValleyOutdoors

I’ll vote for equality every single time, clever guy... whether one is black, brown, white, Man, woman, straight or gay - NOBODY should have special rights or privileges above another. The democratic rule of law, and the enforcement of that law is what separates us from many 3rd world countries where chaos reigns.
Oh - and before you label me as “just another racist colonial pr*ck” I’ll let you know that I’m Métis, proud of my heritage, and one of the first in my family to get a post secondary education. So I’m neither a racist white supremacist, or an uneducated country bumpkin. If all the indigenous leaders wanted was equality and NOT special treatment, i think the indigenous communities would be far better off.

Very well said. Out of curiosity, why don’t other Métis (and Indigenous) look at things the same way you do. This is an honest question, not a smart arse comment. Does it have to do with family dynamics, where you were raised, etc? I just feel that the feeling of entitlement seems to reign supreme within FN groups and I don’t know why more members don’t break the cycle and get an education and become more “independent” and become satisfied with being equal to every other Canadian. Again, this is an honest question and I’d love your insight.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

Put a weak panty waste in charge bad things happen.

some who have a panty waste per say have more fortitude than the turd...just saying.

[Nikanit]

Originally Posted by SageValleyOutdoors

I’ll vote for equality every single time, clever guy... whether one is black, brown, white, Man, woman, straight or gay - NOBODY should have special rights or privileges above another. The democratic rule of law, and the enforcement of that law is what separates us from many 3rd world countries where chaos reigns.
Oh - and before you label me as “just another racist colonial pr*ck” I’ll let you know that I’m Métis, proud of my heritage, and one of the first in my family to get a post secondary education. So I’m neither a racist white supremacist, or an uneducated country bumpkin. If all the indigenous leaders wanted was equality and NOT special treatment, i think the indigenous communities would be far better off.

Word my brother...

[Supermag]

I don't remember exactly where on the island, but there is a spot where a river narrows in a gorge where the natives tie off and use long poles with big gaff hooks on them. They pull up on the pole when they feel a salmon bump it and then try to pull it 30' up the cliff before it falls off the hook.

I watched for a while and it looked like they successfully landed one out of 5 fish that they impaled on the gaff. So many wasted fish!

[warriorboy10]

Originally Posted by Supermag

I don't remember exactly where on the island, but there is a spot where a river narrows in a gorge where the natives tie off and use long poles with big gaff hooks on them. They pull up on the pole when they feel a salmon bump it and then try to pull it 30' up the cliff before it falls off the hook.

I watched for a while and it looked like they successfully landed one out of 5 fish that they impaled on the gaff. So many wasted fish!

Not on VCI but at Moricetown on Hwy 16, north of Smithers. Tied off using long pole nets. Quite the sight!