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Old 03-06-2020, 05:16 PM
Smoky buck Smoky buck is offline
 
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Not on VCI but at Moricetown on Hwy 16, north of Smithers. Tied off using long pole nets. Quite the sight!
One of their members were filmed playing bonk and release it was quite the sight for sure

Part of that band has a well deserved bad reputation in that area.
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Old 03-06-2020, 06:46 PM
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I located a graphic (attached) and even better is right from the horses mouth:

http://www.gitxsan.com/old/images/st...Fs/gitmap2.pdf

If you zoom in, you will see where Terrace is located below region 1. Also you will see where Smithers is below region 4. I've never fished in the Gitxsan area nor cared to. It is vast though.
Thanks for that. Looks like the upper Skeena and tributaries are all covered. Let's hope it doesn't extend to the lower river, not to mention hopefully it doesn't happen at all.
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Old 03-06-2020, 07:44 PM
M.Ote M.Ote is offline
 
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Just facts and figures. So why can't we get this right?
Subject: Fwd: Calgary Sun Article....good read
This Calgary Sun article tells some staggering truths and historical facts.
I hope you are open-minded enough to make an objective read.
I will add one interesting fact - since 1946 the Canadian Government has spent $3,300,000,000.00
That is 3.3 TRILLION on Indian Affairs with NO RETURN on the investment.

Should be reading material for ALL Canadians. This article is absolutely correct.
Some very interesting statistics for each individual to consider but anyone with a background knows this to be true already!
The fact is that the bleeding hearts and vote mongering Politicians don't want the general public to know this,,, so let's spread it around!!
Judging from an article in The Calgary Sun entitled "Enough is Enough", a National Enquiry into missing and murdered aboriginal
women is NOT what needs to be done and Harper was right in not pursuing this time wasting expensive suggestion supported
by both the NDP and Liberals.
Chief Ronald Morin of the Enoch band west of Edmonton is paid $750,000.00 per year by the
federal government (YOU). He spends winters at his winter home in Las Vegas, 4 car garage & swimming pool.
Not all the people in his band live like kings.
Every Chief of an Indian Band in Canada makes more than our Prime Minister.
Harper brought in the "Accountability Act" so that these Chiefs would have to tell their band members and the rest of us where
the money was being spent. It is the taxpayers' money and we have the right to know where all this money is going.
One of Trudeau's first acts as Prime Minister was to throw out the "Accountability Act".
If you were paying attention at all and did your research you would understand this tragedy,
the real issues and what needs to be done to address them.
Some statistics:
According to the RCMP: Out of 6,420 missing persons in Canada 1,455 are women, of those 164 are aboriginal
88% of murders of aboriginal women have been solved by police
89% of murders of non-aboriginal women have been solved by police
Between 1980 and 2012 there were 20,313 murders in Canada.
6,551 of those victims were women and 1,017 of those were aboriginal women.
Here's where it gets even more interesting:
Almost 30% of the 1,017 aboriginal women were murdered by their husbands.
23% were murdered by another family member.
30% were murdered by an acquaintance.
So, only about 8% of aboriginal women were murdered by strangers.
More statistics:
44% of the family members and acquaintances who kill aboriginal women were drunk
74% of the murderers of aboriginal women are unemployed.
AND NOW THE MOST SHOCKING:
71% of the murderers of aboriginal women already had a criminal record.
53% had been convicted before of a violent crime;
62% had a history of violence with the specific murder victim herself.
To be clear, there are some Chiefs and aboriginal communities in this country that are doing well, for various reasons,
but much of it has to do with their leadership. Chief Clarence Louie of the Osoyoos Indian Band is an excellent example
of quality leadership, but no one (especially the media & government) ever talk about him and his people.
Here are the REAL issues:1.
Welfare. The billions of tax payer dollars that go to support aboriginal people, not only in living expenses but free education, free medical, no taxation, etc. has crippled them (as it has crippled many non-aboriginal Canadians for generations). I would venture to say many of them have not worked a day in their lives.
Corrupt leadership who have no idea how to lead, manage, inspire or teach their people .... who take for themselves and their families and friends and are not accountable to anyone (as evidenced most strongly by Chief Theresa Spence in Attawapiskat.) and blame, blame, blame the Canadian Government.
Alcohol and drug abuse, gang violence .... all contributing factors in the crime rate on reserves, lack of parenting, family violence and poverty
A two-tiered justice system that gives aboriginal offenders lighter sentences, or no sentences at all, allowing them back into their communities to continue to abuse the same aboriginal women again and again .... often resulting in death (as evidenced by the 83% who were murdered by their husbands, a family member or an acquaintance). If you want a National enquiry .... it should be on this issue.
When you say "It is inconceivable that we, as a country, allowed this situation to continue" .... and "We urgently need to acknowledge
the systemic aspect of this crisis instead of ignoring or dismissing it." What are your intended solutions? A National enquiry is not
going to fix these problems!
Giving the aboriginals more of hard earned Canadian taxpayer dollars is NOT going to fix this problem!
WHAT ARE YOUR REAL SOLUTIONS TO THE REAL ISSUES ?
Let's get this straight.
This land does not belong to them and they never were a 'Nation'. These people's ancestors did not just appear in North America, magically out of thin air one day 40 or 50,000 years ago. They came in waves across the land/ice bridge from Asia. What's more, these waves, in many cases, were not related groups of people. They came from various places around North Eastern Asia and were from different genetic strains. In other words, the "natives of North America " are not a homogenous group of people and more importantly...they are immigrants too. Like millions of immigrants today.
The idea that the "natives" were peaceful caretakers of the land or benevolent tenants couldn't be further from the truth. The various tribes right across Canada warred on each other constantly. They were violent. Want proof? Ask the Hurons ... oh, that's right you can't. The Iroquois' wiped them out. How about slavery that was rife among all the first nation tribes until the Europeans came and freed the slaves and put an end to this "valued cultural tradition". Is slavery peaceful and humane
The idea that we "stole" this land from them is also ridiculous.
A more technologically advanced and numerous culture invaded and conquered. This is exactly what has been happening since the dawn of humanity all around the globe. To say we "stole" their lands is just plain wrong. That is akin to saying the Saxons should return England to the Angles. Or maybe we should launch a campaign to have the Roman descendants give Italy back to the Etruscans. It is a nonsensical notion driven by the politically correct bleeding hearts, some intellectually deficient politicians and pressure on the Government from lobbying groups. Also by the Indian people. It will continue to cost this country needless and wasted trillions until we get some backbone and turn off the taps.
Are these people in trouble? Yes.
Do they need help? Yes.
Are they responsible enough to look after themselves and efficiently spend the billions that tax payers give them ? CERTAINLY NOT
The only way to fix this situation is to bring them into society as equals.
Getting jobs and paying taxes like the rest of us because in reality, they are no more special than any of the other
numerous cultures that now call Canada home.

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Old 03-06-2020, 08:37 PM
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M.Ote article is bang on. The natives are right they are not treated equally they are treated better the non natives. Sadly the extras we give them is what has hurt them.
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