Anybody using their RV while at work and what are you charging?

[rocpilefsj]

Like the title says, if any of you are using your camper for work and charging, what is the going rate? One of my employees just presented me with a personal invoice for use of motorhome for $260 a day x 28 days. He asked if he could camp instead of staying in a hotel, I said sure we will pay for the fuel there and back, campground fees plus we pay subsistence for everyday out of town. No agreement was made, just wondering what some of your guys thoughts are on the matter?

[Donkey Oatey]

If you are paying sub and camping fees that is all he should get. What do you pay if he stayed in a hotel or camp? If he CHOOSES to stay in his motorhome then that is what sub is for.

[70chevy]

He should only be charging what the room rate would be .If your paying fuel plus camp fees it should not be more than this,Sounds like a sweet deal he has.You hiring?

[Zulu9er]

$7,280 a month for a motor home to rent? Tell your employee I will rent my 14 1/2 ft Zodiac with 20hp Yamaha for $6,000 a month,,,lol

[Wild&Free]

Fuel, campground fees, and normal LOA that would be paid to the guys in the hotel sounds to be what you agreed to pay. So if you figure hotel room + subsistence as your LOA if it meets or is over the 260 a day he's charging then that's that. If it's under, then you might want to discuss it with him. No reason he should cost more for living out of his motorhome.

[DAVENYK66]

I would say, 'nice try'

[slough shark]

$260 a day for staying in a camper rather than a hotel? that seems awfully steep to me, how expensive are hotel rooms in the area? It sounds like he is trying to find a way to line his pockets on top of getting payed. Perhaps pay his expenses + a little for staying in his camper rather than the hotel. I say try to find somewhere in the middle, cheaper than the hotel but a little to him for his troubles, just find out what that middle ground is, perhaps camping expenses+ $50 a day or something, I know I would be alright with something like that.

[Wild&Free]

ignore my last post. i'm an idiot.

[75ft Arborist]

We pay for hotel room, roughly $100/night and $50 LOA. Company supplies fuel card and company truck. If one of our guys asked what your guy is asking then he/she would not get anymore than $150/day.

[rocpilefsj]

Hotels in the area are around $125.00, nothing major. I am going to offer to give him the $125.00 a day minus camping fees, minus the fuel. If he doesn't like it then he can f off! Technically he did save the company that amount of money for not having to pay a hotel, but that is not the agreement we had when he left. Employees seem to be getting worse and worse, the sense of entitlement some of them have is mind boggling some days.

[ab4wheel]

I charge 220 a day to stay in my trailer and I know thats on the highside as im a inspector but I pay for the camp site the welders and fiters on this job are getting 160 a day and pay there own campsite and fuel

[SkytopBrewster]

I don't use mine for work but if I did I would say $150 max.The going rate for a 12x60 wellsite shack is 180-190, if you figure in trucking costs to move the shack on short jobs I would say $150 is saving you money. Depends on the situation ie location, If the guy is dragging his 70K 5th wheel down the bigstone I would probably charge $260 too, have you figured in cost savings for reduced km charges.

[rocpilefsj]

The campsite is farther away from the worksite than the hotels are. He uses a company service unit paid with company fuel to and from work. He is camping in a campsite right off the highway. Guess I should have put everything in writing before he left.

[Fisherpeak]

Originally Posted by rocpilefsj

The campsite is farther away from the worksite than the hotels are. He uses a company service unit paid with company fuel to and from work. He is camping in a campsite right off the highway. Guess I should have put everything in writing before he left.

Easy,what does it cost to rent a truck plus fuel.Charge him that against his $250 a day.If he ain`t vital to the job I`d run him off.

[riden]

Originally Posted by Fisherpeak

Easy,what does it cost to rent a truck plus fuel.Charge him that against his $250 a day.If he ain`t vital to the job I`d run him off.

HA HA

I was thinking what a great place we live. Back east trying this may cost you your job.

[billie]

In my experience, all employees got the same amount per day (LOA => Living Out Allowance). Where they stay, what they eat and any expenses incurred are their responsibility, nothing more or nothing less than anyone else on the crew. It was a fixed rate, nothing variable.

[dumoulin]

Originally Posted by rocpilefsj

Like the title says, if any of you are using your camper for work and charging, what is the going rate? One of my employees just presented me with a personal invoice for use of motorhome for $260 a day x 28 days. He asked if he could camp instead of staying in a hotel, I said sure we will pay for the fuel there and back, campground fees plus we pay subsistence for everyday out of town. No agreement was made, just wondering what some of your guys thoughts are on the matter?

120$-140$ per day he's working + fuel + sub. is the going rate. Usually the campgound fees aren't part of that deal.

[just_dave]

Was this his personal motorhome or a rental?

[Blastoff]

Originally Posted by rocpilefsj

Like the title says, if any of you are using your camper for work and charging, what is the going rate? One of my employees just presented me with a personal invoice for use of motorhome for $260 a day x 28 days. He asked if he could camp instead of staying in a hotel, I said sure we will pay for the fuel there and back, campground fees plus we pay subsistence for everyday out of town. No agreement was made, just wondering what some of your guys thoughts are on the matter?

Find some one else, give him sub and thats it. Tell him not to let the door hit him on the way out.

[elkfriend]

500$/week or 1700$/month would be a reasonable fair market value if he had rented the RV somewhere.

280$/day is completely unreasonable and an attempt to bend you over.

[Sundancefisher]

depends. If this is a flood related short term fix...then he should be paid cost. If this is a work related thing then normally companies have an allowance....$X amount accommodation and $X amount for food.

If he wants to rough it...and pay for the unit then so be it. If he is closer to the operation site that is a good thing. What ever the cost of the average hotel and food allowance is fair.

You could try and nickel and dime the guy down but to what purpose? If he stays in the hotel and eats at the restaurant you pay the full amount.

For fairness and simplicity...allocate the room and board allowance and pay it out fairly to all.

[rocpilefsj]

We do not have a set amount except for sub, we pay accommodations and fuel for the work trucks. I had a room booked but he decided he would rather stay at a campsite. I said fine we will pay the fuel there and back plus campsite fees, I even said if he needed propane to use the company card. Then he gets back and throws an invoice at me. Caught me off guard is all. This is completely out of sorts for the employee who I do consider an important member of the team, but this just seems offside to me. The geographics we tend to work in there is either a hotel or it is camp work. My GM told me today this is why he doesn't want people using their own equipment, that and they break it and want the company to fix it because it happened while away at work. Live and learn I guess. Thanks for all the replies!

[just_dave]

Make him explain it.

[catnthehat]

Living out allowance for unionized building trades is $220 per day up here, so that may be a bench mark for you.
It's less down south.
Cat

[randster]

Me thinks buddy wants you to pay off his motor home right quick.
JMO

[silver]

You didn't say where all this took place. My union contract says I should be paid $50 for meals plus hotel room. I can take $120 as a LOA. It is my choice. The other option is to cover his expenses, campground fees, grocerys and other things. If he can come up with the bills, pay him.

[rocpilefsj]

Edson/Whitecourt area. We pay 60 a day for sub plus pay accommodation and fuel for work vehicles. We have no issues paying that but the understanding we had when he left was sub, fuel there and back for the motorhome and campground fees. Then when he gets back he throws an invoice at me for 7300 bucks... Surprising start to the week.

[Gbuss]

I work non camp on my rig all the time. Sub is 140 a day that is it. No if ands and buts. Camp site a month would run hime any were from 600 to 1000. So I don't see the need for such a high bill. If he is a sub contractor then he might be claiming it as is office. But I don't know. My thought is pay him then fire him. No need to let him rape you with that cost.

[tbiddy]

I've stayed in my trailer for work and we kind of met in the middle on what we would charge. We would get $50/day for sub and the room was paid for (about $150/night). So when we lived in our trailers we got paid $50/day sub and we charged $80/night for our trailers (we paid all camping fees out of that). Instead of the company paying $200/day for us to live they paid $130/day. I kind of see where he is coming from. If your willing to pay lets say The Best Western $200/night why not give him the $200/night. The arrangement we had saved the company a little money and put a little money in our pockets. Win/Win for both.

[Reeves1]

SUB is all he should be getting.
Where an employee stays is up to him.

I've gotten $100.00 to $180.00 SUB.

Truck is separate & taxed (now).
I've gotten $100.00 to $160.00/day & the companies have always paid fuel.

If you need a hoe operator let me know. Off to the end of July......