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I’m talking about field dressed if you guys know what that is, not skinned and with head still attached. The way you guys talk I think I’m more experienced then you guys. I shot one once that after it was skinned and head taken off that weighed 170 pounds
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Don’t worry everyone on here knows what field dressed is... looking at a map of coues deer distribution should prove why you are getting so much flack. Why are you so set on this deer not being a normal Alberta whitetail?
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Don’t worry everyone on here knows what field dressed is... looking at a map of coues deer distribution should prove why you are getting so much flack. Why are you so set on this deer not being a normal Alberta whitetail?
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Because it's fills in an empty gap that can only be filled when one is, or is in possession of, something "special".
Kinda like the guy at work with a completely stock vehicle that he claims is a special order, super high horsepower, limited edition, ruby diamond, Chuck Norris edition ford tempo in the rare teal color.
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Stick to fishing...trolling is the method I would suggest...you would likely be great at that.
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Because it's fills in an empty gap that can only be filled when one is, or is in possession of, something "special".
Kinda like the guy at work with a completely stock vehicle that he claims is a special order, super high horsepower, limited edition, ruby diamond, Chuck Norris edition ford tempo in the rare teal color.
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Never thought about it like that but now it makes sense, momma told me I was special now I have to show everyone else too! Look at my hybrid Mexican- Alberta whitetail mulie cross... lol
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Originally Posted by EZM
Because it's fills in an empty gap that can only be filled when one is, or is in possession of, something "special".
Kinda like the guy at work with a completely stock vehicle that he claims is a special order, super high horsepower, limited edition, ruby diamond, Chuck Norris edition ford tempo in the rare teal color.
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Perfect analogy of the creedmore shooter..........  (I kid you)
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12-24-2018, 10:35 PM
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Perfect analogy of the creedmore shooter.......... (I kid you) |
Perfect analogy when you look up the Alberta whitetail and it originally was called the Virginia whitetail
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12-24-2018, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by remingtonusa
Perfect analogy when you look up the Alberta whitetail and it originally was called the Virginia whitetail
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I don’t see the point of this tidbit of information but ok. 
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12-24-2018, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
Stick to fishing...trolling is the method I would suggest...you would likely be great at that.
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Just because your good at fishing doesn’t mean I should take that sport up.....catch a lot of suckers I bet
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12-24-2018, 10:55 PM
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Perfect analogy when you look up the Alberta whitetail and it originally was called the Virginia whitetail
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Seriously ?!
So at what point if history was this?
I have read about white tail biology since the early 60’s and never read anywhere that the Virginia white tail was ever found this far west or north!
Or the Coues for that matter......
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12-26-2018, 04:07 PM
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Seriously ?!
So at what point if history was this?
I have read about white tail biology since the early 60’s and never read anywhere that the Virginia white tail was ever found this far west or north!
Or the Coues for that matter......
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Yes seriously.......there is a light coloured whitetail (Virginia) and the dark ones (South Dakota whitetails). An adult whitetail on average weighs 160 pounds where as a Coues Whitetail weighs on average 100-115 pounds. Mine would’ve been not much over 100 pounds.
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12-26-2018, 04:25 PM
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Seriously ?!
So at what point if history was this?
I have read about white tail biology since the early 60’s and never read anywhere that the Virginia white tail was ever found this far west or north!
Or the Coues for that matter......
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I believe that this is what is confusing him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-tailed_deer
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The white-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus), also known as the whitetail or Virginia deer
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He seems to be confusing the subspecies with the fact that some people refer to the entire species as Virginia deer. 
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12-26-2018, 04:41 PM
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No. That isn’t confusing me......there are 27 subspecies of whitetail deer which includes the Coues. They run throughout from Canada to South America. That is from research online
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12-26-2018, 04:52 PM
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No. That isn’t confusing me......there are 27 subspecies of whitetail deer which includes the Coues. They run throughout from Canada to South America. That is from research online
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I sure hope you’re trolling but if not call your local bio and maybe you will except his opinion
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No. That isn’t confusing me......there are 27 subspecies of whitetail deer which includes the Coues. They run throughout from Canada to South America. That is from research online
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Did your research tell you Coues deer live in Alberta?
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12-26-2018, 05:33 PM
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No. That isn’t confusing me......there are 27 subspecies of whitetail deer which includes the Coues. They run throughout from Canada to South America. That is from research online
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The research should tell you , that there are no Virginia or Coues subspecies anywhere near Alberta.
https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2016...il-subspecies/
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12-26-2018, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by remingtonusa
Yes seriously.......there is a light coloured whitetail (Virginia) and the dark ones (South Dakota whitetails). An adult whitetail on average weighs 160 pounds where as a Coues Whitetail weighs on average 100-115 pounds. Mine would’ve been not much over 100 pounds.
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You missed the most important part of your research which would be the range if all the different subspecies if white tails .
Body weight and colour alone are not good indications .
I would suggest some books by Doctor Charlie Kroll,and Professor Val Geist for starters to get the real low down on white tails and maybe book or two by Leonard Lee Rue111 and Russell Thornberry
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12-26-2018, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by catnthehat
You missed the most important part of your research which would be the range if all the different subspecies if white tails .
Body weight and colour alone are not good indications .
I would suggest some books by Doctor Charlie Kroll,and Professor Val Geist for starters to get the real low down on white tails and maybe book or two by Leonard Lee Rue111 and Russell Thornberry
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You guys are saying there isn’t 27 subspecies of whitetails? All I did for a search is type in are whitetail deer related to Coues Whitetail deer and it told there are 27 subspecies including Coues.
Search as to wether or not Virginia whitetails are native to Alberta and do the same for South Dakota whitetails and tell me what you find out
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12-26-2018, 06:11 PM
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You guys are saying there isn’t 27 subspecies of whitetails? All I did for a search is type in are whitetail deer related to Coues Whitetail deer and it told there are 27 subspecies including Coues.
Search as to wether or not Virginia whitetails are native to Alberta and do the same for South Dakota whitetails and tell me what you find out
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Mellennials, gotta love em.
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Mellennials, gotta love em.
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You guys are saying there isn’t 27 subspecies of whitetails? All I did for a search is type in are whitetail deer related to Coues Whitetail deer and it told there are 27 subspecies including Coues.
Search as to wether or not Virginia whitetails are native to Alberta and do the same for South Dakota whitetails and tell me what you find out
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I never said there are not 27 different sub species what ii said is you need to check their range habitation of each subspecies.
Finding a Virginia or a Coues up here is about as likely as finding a Key White tail although you may find small and dark Dacotensis quite often
You are getting the main name ( Odocoileus Virginianus )mixed up with various sub species.
However if you say that it is because you read it in Wikipedia have at 'er.
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I can assure you as a millennial myself our generation is lost... this isn’t even as absurd as they get.
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I can assure you as a millennial myself our generation is lost... this isn’t even as absurd as they get.
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As one my self I take offence to that I’m a millennial and and hope is lost if he can’t grasp that it’s a whitetail not a couse not a Sitka blacktail not a mule deer just an average sized Alberta whitetail with average rack along with the rest running around Alberta
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I bet my jackalope scores better than the OP's.
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12-26-2018, 11:40 PM
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I bet my jackalope scores better than the OP's.
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Your so funny 😆
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I shot a smaller bull elk this year, guessing it was a tule? Anyone else ever got a tule up here?
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I shot a smaller bull elk this year, guessing it was a tule? Anyone else ever got a tule up here?
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Funny you say that. Bio's have tracked elk from southern Alberta as far south as the Mississippi.
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12-27-2018, 08:22 AM
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Funny you say that. Bio's have tracked elk from southern Alberta as far south as the Mississippi.
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Funny you say that. Bio's have tracked elk from southern Alberta as far south as the Mississippi.
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Then again , the north end of the Mississippi really isn't that far south.
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Or the milk river, which is part of the Mississippi drainage......
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I have lived on a farm over 25 years and hunted 21 years. This is just a totally different type of hair. My grandpa hunted for over 50 years and he agrees with me that it’s a hybrid and so does a taxidermist of 40 or more years.
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The taxidermist I’m talking about was also a guide. As for grandpa, he’s been involved in hunting his entire life (80 years)
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Just my opinion since mule and whitetail are travelling together more then they used to
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Ok. I have did research and found that it isn’t a hybrid. Considering he only weighed 150 pounds dressed I was wondering could it be a Coues Whitetail? I know they are a smaller body size from my research
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Perfect analogy when you look up the Alberta whitetail and it originally was called the Virginia whitetail
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Originally Posted by remingtonusa
Yes seriously.......there is a light coloured whitetail (Virginia) and the dark ones (South Dakota whitetails). An adult whitetail on average weighs 160 pounds where as a Coues Whitetail weighs on average 100-115 pounds. Mine would’ve been not much over 100 pounds.
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No. That isn’t confusing me......there are 27 subspecies of whitetail deer which includes the Coues. They run throughout from Canada to South America. That is from research online
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Oh Good Lord. All of it. It's all like watching a heart attack.
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