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Old 05-03-2022, 05:52 PM
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Iíll have to re confirm which dozier I ordered from ag Russell. Really I should buy a bunch of them and just re sell here. Not going to pop my fellow outdoorsman on a great knife
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Old 05-03-2022, 06:01 PM
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Hi pathfinder. The top knife.
Order from Crotts. Dozier is an insane wait.
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Old 05-03-2022, 07:36 PM
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Order from Crotts. Dozier is an insane wait.
3/5 months from ag russel for a dozier
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Old 05-03-2022, 07:58 PM
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3/5 months from ag russel for a dozier
Yes, if you want what they stock. If you want that Crotts knife he is a similar wait. I ordered my two Jan 15th ish. So 3.5 months.
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Old 05-03-2022, 08:24 PM
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For all of you ordering Dozier knives, are you just going with the available Arkansas Doziers?

I guess whether you get a Crotts or Dozier, it isn't made by Dan or Bob unless your paying the big bucks?

I've been checking out this thread for the past few days and I'm thinking I might want to order one of these beauties. Trying to decide on which one is the hard part.

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Old 05-03-2022, 08:34 PM
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Iím not sure anyone has ordered a Dozier here but I could be wrong. They can be picked up at a few dealers if you watch.

Crotts knives are made by Dan.

Here is a shot of the red liners.



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Old 05-03-2022, 08:35 PM
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Hi pathfinder. The top knife.
Why not just order a Crotts? He runs the Arkansas Made Dozier shop, and has for years. On some of the knife forums, people suggest that the stepson may have already surpassed the father. To order one that Bob Dozier puts his paws on will be a bit of a wait, and from his instagram page, it seems to me that he is mostly focusing on folders, but from time to time he posts a pic of some really nice fixed blades heís putting out, but they are fancier, and twice the cost (or more) than the the stuff coming out of the Arkansas Made Dozier shop.

Either way, they are gorgeous knives, and I have never read anything except glowing reviews about both of their products, and I have spent oodles and oodles and oodles of hours reading every word I possibly can.

Have I mentioned Iíve fallen down this rabbit hole

I am honestly more excited about getting one of these knives than I have been for any gun I have ever bought.

But back to your question about which model of Dozier is similar to the Crotts knives Pathfinder just got. Here is a link to Arkansas Made Dozier fixed blad huntin styles. I would say the Columbia River Skinner is about the closest. Problem is that it says there is a 3 year wait to order directly, but their knives do pop up every week at AG Russel, Arizona Custom Knives, and Fort Henry Knives.

I also see them being resold by individuals from time to time on Bladeforums, as well as 24 hr Campfire.

http://www.dozierknives.com/index.ph...d=8&Itemid=109

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Old 05-03-2022, 09:44 PM
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From my experience Dan puts out a more consistent product.

Iíve bought Doziers that were as good as a Crotts, some that were very close and I owned one I had to send back that should have never made it out of the shop. Itís replacement was the first one I know Dan built himself and it was mint. After that, I went straight to him for the rest of my knives. He does bloody good work, look at Chucks knife. From what I can see the grinds are crisp, exact and itís something anyone would be proud to own.


Thatís not to say Doziers arenít finished to a high level but they could be made by a few people and are less consistently excellent as what Iíve found Danís knives to be.

For those who wonder about the dozier I sent back








There was more but I donít need to show it.

I havenít owned one built by Bob because the ones he builds now donít suit my taste. I have no doubt theyíre great.



Chuck, for some reason the scales on your knife reminded me of g10 even though you said in the beginning you had ordered micarta. Probably because the micarta Iíve owned didnít show any grain like yours does. Good looking knives, go get em bloody.


On more thing. Now this is something Iíve read and seen reports on. Iíve personally never verified it so take it for what itís worth.

I notice youíve put an edge on that knife already. D2 has large carbides and Iíve read not to take it past 15 deg per side as you run the risk of carbide tear out if there isnít enough supporting steel matrix around the carbides to hold them in. I canít tell what angle you finished that on but it looks to be a lot more acute then whatever angle Dan finishes at. If you get a ragged edge on that knife after some use that would be why. Itís also possible your nowhere near 15 dps and Iím just blowing smoke.

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Old 05-03-2022, 09:53 PM
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Yikes!

They are green canvas, and highly polished. And feel no different than G10 really.

Funny thing. My Dozier semi skinner was advertised as green canvas. But came with one side brown and one green. The workmanship is flawless, but it makes me wonder if it is a return.
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Old 05-04-2022, 09:28 AM
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All three of those knives, two Crotts and one Dozier are works of very skilled craftsmen.
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Old 05-04-2022, 09:54 AM
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https://www.cabelas.ca/product/14249...ed-blade-knife

They have several in stock, at the Calgary location.
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Old 05-05-2022, 08:17 AM
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I took the hide off of someoneís bear last night. I did it alone, so as to get a feel for how they work when Iím fatigued. I split the bear about half and half with each. Both seemed equal in that task. Then skinning I switched back and forth. About 1/3 through I grabbed some water and went back at it with the Crotts. Then switching to the Dozier I suddenly felt I was having to work harder with my hand so went right back to the Crotts and finished with it. It is very easy on the hand. You donít feel like you are wearing out with it. Both are fantastic and I wouldnít feel under equipped with either. Both were still sharp at the end. I have a 17 degree edge on the Dozier and 20 on the Crotts. Both finished with a 2200 grit diamond stone and then stropped. For what that is worth.



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Way to go, Pathfinder. Interesting thoughts for sure! Great pics too.
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Old 05-05-2022, 11:01 AM
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Way to go, Pathfinder. Interesting thoughts for sure! Great pics too.
X2, skinning a bear is a good test
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Old 05-05-2022, 11:35 AM
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Pathfinder, how sharp was the knife after skinning? Shaving arm hair sharp? Could those knives have done another bear without sharpening? Thanks
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Old 05-05-2022, 12:16 PM
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Pathfinder, how sharp was the knife after skinning? Shaving arm hair sharp? Could those knives have done another bear without sharpening? Thanks
They were shaving sharp. Thatís how I tested them.
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They were shaving sharp. Thatís how I tested them.
Like Crocodile Dundee?

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Old 05-05-2022, 03:15 PM
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I have a 17 degree edge on the Dozier and 20 on the Crotts. Both finished with a 2200 grit diamond stone and then stropped. For what that is worth.



When I first read that I saw you finished them at 220 grit and thought that would be a bit courseÖ then I read it again. Iím curious what they cut like finished at 2200 PLUS a strop. Iíve never taken one past 1000 grit. Would you consider finishing one or both somewhere between 600-1000 grit and comparing their cutting aggression and edge retention against the 2200?
At roughly 800 grit youíll need a few animals to knock the shaving edge off it.
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When I first read that I saw you finished them at 220 grit and thought that would be a bit courseÖ then I read it again. Iím curious what they cut like finished at 2200 PLUS a strop. Iíve never taken one past 1000 grit. Would you consider finishing one or both somewhere between 600-1000 grit and comparing their cutting aggression and edge retention against the 2200?
At roughly 800 grit youíll need a few animals to knock the shaving edge off it.
Iím absolutely willing to try that.
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Well thanks a lot guys I just purchased a Crotts semi skinner with a black maple handle.

Now if someone can help me set up a go fund me page, everyone that contributed to this thread can send me a couple of dollars.

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^ Lol.


Great pics, Pathfinder! I thought you would like the crotts better.

Canít wait for the ďtestĒ results should you proceed.

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Have no doubt they will.

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You should post up a pic of that knife. Love to see it.
Itís in the box, lol. Maybe I will dig them out to post in the other thread (the knife collection or whatever it is called).
I dug up the box over the weekend. Not the one I intended, but this knife was in it. Some of the other ones I wanted to post werenít, so I will only post here instead of the other thread as promised. It appears to be very similar to the one I posted earlier, except the handle on mine is more brown rather than reddish and it is polished unlike the one on the pic I posted earlier.







Steel is Elmax, like the other one posted from Fort Henry.

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I really like both the brown and green micarta handles. You almost had me ready to change my order.
You should! Lol. Seriously though, you should. Micarta > wood, any day
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Thatís a beauty!
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^ Lol. You should! Lol. Seriously though, you should. Micarta > wood, any day
Tupperware stocks are more functional than wood too, but I like pretty
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Old 05-09-2022, 03:16 PM
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My curiosity got the best of me, I ordered a Crotts semi skinner. Hopefully I have it before fall.
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This thread has sold a metric ton of knives. Talk about purchase mentoring. 😁
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This thread has sold a metric ton of knives. Talk about purchase mentoring. 😁
No doubt. Lol
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I think Dan has quit taking orders at the moment actually.
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I was speaking with Wendi and she said they were stopping orders until they could catch up with the backlog.

Dean, we are still looking at 6-8 weeks.

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Tupperware stocks are more functional than wood too, but I like pretty

Which does not explain your penchant for shooting Tupperware.
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