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Old 05-22-2017, 08:54 AM
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Default Prussian carp in Mcgregor

A young friend of mine swears he saw a couple
Of Prussians ,finning in shallow water in Mcgregor .
Anyone else seen this .
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Old 05-22-2017, 08:55 AM
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I bet by now they are spread through the bow drainage and reservoirs.
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Old 05-22-2017, 01:23 PM
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Too bad they never made it to PCR maybe then you could catch a walleye that was over 1.5 lbs. If they are in Mcgregor it will be additional food for the walleye and pike.
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Old 05-22-2017, 03:10 PM
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Too bad they never made it to PCR maybe then you could catch a walleye that was over 1.5 lbs. If they are in Mcgregor it will be additional food for the walleye and pike.
Glass half full ! Prussian carp eat everything, including fish eggs. They also use a lot of oxygen once they start to thrive, creating winter kill. Glass half empty !!! It might create a lot of big fish now, but we're doomed in the long run.
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Old 05-22-2017, 08:02 PM
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Glass half full ! Prussian carp eat everything, including fish eggs.
Whitefish eat fish eggs, burbot eat fish eggs, rainbow eat fish eggs, sucker eat fish eggs.... How come there is still some fish left in waters?
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Old 05-22-2017, 08:15 PM
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Best read up on how prolific prussian carp are, likely not going to be as rosy as you think.
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:45 PM
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Whitefish eat fish eggs, burbot eat fish eggs, rainbow eat fish eggs, sucker eat fish eggs.... How come there is still some fish left in waters?
Those carp breed like mosquitos and can live almost anywhere. Once they take over a lake, you will be saying " how come there is no fish left in waters ?" Are you a fan of this introduction of carp ?
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Old 05-25-2017, 02:51 PM
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Too bad they never made it to PCR maybe then you could catch a walleye that was over 1.5 lbs. If they are in Mcgregor it will be additional food for the walleye and pike.
None native illegal fish introductions are NEVER a good thing. I get what you are thinking. Maybe perch might of helped however my understanding of the biology of PCR is its a poor sustainer of small fish fauna due to the natural algae/plankton/macrophyte community.

In other words it appears the best use for the lake after trying pike/walleye combination is trout since they can thrive better on critters like shrimps, mayflies, caddisflies, damselflies etc.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:23 PM
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Bad news for native species in the long run. The government has been quiet about this infestation of Prussian Carp. The drainage ditch from Lakeside Packers is full of them north east of Brooks. They are spreading fast.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:41 PM
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wow we need huge populations of pelicans then
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Old 05-24-2017, 12:34 AM
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Blindman River is infested as well......Last year I kept snagging them while fishing for Pike. I'm sure the Red Deer River is packed full as well..... Hey, if they're not impacting the environment and our fisheries and providing another food source for our predator fish I'm all for them. But obviously that's not the case unfortunately.
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Old 05-24-2017, 08:18 AM
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Nothing good will come of these fish in our waterways. They have been around for over ten years originating in the Rosebud river tributaries. The population is exploding and they will become more and more abundant.

They are in all water bodies in southern Alberta that are part of the SRD canal system, and as far North as Red Deer. The Bow river is full of them and they are here to stay as nothing can be done to eradicate them. They reproduce like mice, breeding 3 or more times per year. They tear up substrate and require little to no oxygen to survive and will live out of water for 8 hours or more. They can overwinter in a lake even if it freezes solid because they have the ability to bury themselves in the mud and go dormant.

They are one of the worst invasive species for native fish, and will most certainly have a drastic impact on our fisheries. Some predator fish will certainly benefit in the short term, until they overpopulate the water bodies.
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Old 05-25-2017, 09:05 AM
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Bad news for native species in the long run. The government has been quiet about this infestation of Prussian Carp. The drainage ditch from Lakeside Packers is full of them north east of Brooks. They are spreading fast.
People are not listening lalalalalalalalalalalal

http://aep.alberta.ca/fish-wildlife/...cies/fish.aspx

http://aep.alberta.ca/fish-wildlife/...rp-May2015.pdf
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Old 05-25-2017, 10:48 AM
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Default Never add a fish to a waterway

Regardless if a species is native or not.. please don't add to waterways.. it will unbalance the ecosystem... leave it to the professionals to manage these populations.
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