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02-09-2011, 08:32 PM
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hunting yotes at night
are you allowed to hunt coyotes at night on private prop/farm???are they classed as a nuisance? anyone know the regs for alberta on this? thanx
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02-09-2011, 09:04 PM
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I think you can hunt them with a stick at nite....it's the discharging a firearm that's gonna slow you up !!
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02-09-2011, 09:37 PM
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The best coyote shooting can be had late at night under yard nlights and at set baits.Illegal as all getout but a farmer/rancher has to thin them a bit. With all the snow and a late spring our coyotes could raise major cane with calves. Not surprisingly Ive found all but one of my coyotes in super shape weight wise.The hides are on the poor side though with lots of mange down south.
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02-09-2011, 10:40 PM
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Coyotes can be shot by a residence of alberta any time of the year you have legel permission to do so on said lands with no limit on numbers or kind of weapon used. as far as at night goes definatlly not.
but if its private property id just go ahead if its the blessing of the owner, keep the volume down(nothing with a super sonic crack forsure) gun shots attract alot of attention at night and sound travels further in the dark as well as the cold.
Ive found sometimes the yotes get crafty if they get to much pressure and will go allmost completely nocternal. Ive done this before on family land to thin em out sometimes its better to shoot, shovel and shutup, or in this case shoot, skin, shovel and shutup
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02-09-2011, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Elk Slayer
but if its private property id just go ahead if its the blessing of the owner, keep the volume down(nothing with a super sonic crack forsure) gun shots attract alot of attention at night and sound travels further in the dark as well as the cold.
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So you are advising people to break the law...
I suppose you would recommend the same if you saw a nice buck after legal light... just make sure you keep the noise down.
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02-09-2011, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Elk Slayer
and sound travels further in the dark
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It's just amazing what you can learn here.
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02-09-2011, 11:10 PM
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geez okatokian got that badge nice and shiny tonight?
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02-09-2011, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by crazy_fool1
geez okatokian got that badge nice and shiny tonight?
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why would anyone condone illegal activity? If it's ok then PLEASE lets stop whining about about news stories where they call poachers hunters. We really know that it's all good as long as you don't get caught. What have you gotten away with lately Crazy?
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02-09-2011, 11:22 PM
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oh great a burrow...... no i dont advise breaking the law, but i do advise wieghing right, wrong and saftey/protection of assets. if its private property and the coyotes are a serious problem take em out. its not poaching deer,I take wildlife crimes very seriously, I am a memeber of DUC and RMEF and i was saying if it was me I would. If youve ever been a landowner with a coyote infestation and your not to busy kissing goverment A-- youd understand.
let me guess your the kinda guy that feels offened by porn, or calls the cops on some kids joy riding on a dirt bike past his house because its "against the law". its a freekin yote on private land man.not spotlighting a deer. youve never shot a gopher out of or off a truck?
P.S. say what you want till your blue in the fingers in rebutle but clearly we are from diffrent schools, i will not reply.
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02-09-2011, 11:31 PM
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Its not that I get away with anything its, that I don't force my beliefs/morals/ethics on others in a contstant annoying battery of useless posts. People who break the law know that they are doing so and will take it upon themselves to do it no matter how much you nag at them. Thats just how some ppl are.
You don't have to agree with everyone here but you don't have to make a specticle of yourself all the time either. Thats all I'm sayin about you. About the law itself, the law is the law and should be followed at all times, but I am also smart enough to realize that, that law is not in place to stop ranchers from protecting their herds from predators.
It's to stop unfair hunting practices like spotlighting and poaching. So for night hunting predators, I think it could be reviewed to be legalized like in some US states to help control some species.
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02-09-2011, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Elk Slayer
. youve never shot a gopher out of or off a truck?
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Nope, I never have. I follow the firearms laws. Guess that makes me a total nerd in your world. How come we didn't hear you piping up and defending those morons in Saskatchewan who videoed themselves shooting ducks with rifles from their trucks?
Just have no respect for your sort. Sorry, not going to apologize for being hard on guys who give hunters a bad name.
So you have admitted being in favour of hunting at night and shooting from vehicles... any other secrets you would like to share?
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02-09-2011, 11:42 PM
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Why wouldn't that just trap? Go the the F&W office, say you have problem coyotes and get some traps? Just for interests sake, is it illegal to shoot a bow after legal light?
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02-09-2011, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by smith88
Just for interests sake, is it illegal to shoot a bow after legal light?
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Yup, a half hour after last light I'm out of my tree stand for that exact reason.
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02-09-2011, 11:52 PM
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yup, not as easy to catch someone shooting a bow after legal light but it is the law.
Trapping would be the best legal bet for clearing out some predators but its a bit more work and a bit more money to get into it. Possibly extra trappers licence(Dont know if its required for private property but I would assume so)
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02-10-2011, 12:26 AM
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Everybody knows that shooting coyotes at night is just the 'gateway' to poaching deer with a spotlight.
Then comes the driving around and sniping bigger animals until it progresses to a full busload of hostages or worse.
Some are even cutting the coyotes with wolves or cougars and getting the first timers 'hooked' on the downward spiral of depravity at an early age.
Before you know it they are roaming the backroads drinking beers and shooting roadsigns all willy nilly.
If they could just make it legal, they could turn the budget around with taxes on it and all the high powered paraphanelia the lowlifes need.
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02-10-2011, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Findal
Everybody knows that shooting coyotes at night is just the 'gateway' to poaching deer with a spotlight.
Then comes the driving around and sniping bigger animals until it progresses to a full busload of hostages or worse.
Some are even cutting the coyotes with wolves or cougars and getting the first timers 'hooked' on the downward spiral of depravity at an early age.
Before you know it they are roaming the backroads drinking beers and shooting roadsigns all willy nilly.
If they could just make it legal, they could turn the budget around with taxes on it and all the high powered paraphanelia the lowlifes need.
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Almost there.... take another run at it
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02-10-2011, 05:24 AM
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holy cow findal,its not a gatway to deer, you sound like a drug counsellor,what have you been smoking? funny though,kinda spooky i dont hunt deer during the day let alone night so there goes that theory. thanx for the imput guys i thought i heard somewhere that it was allowed like other nuiscance like skunks, but guess not.
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02-10-2011, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by wolf308
are you allowed to hunt coyotes at night on private prop/farm???are they classed as a nuisance? anyone know the regs for alberta on this? thanx
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just get a call, elctronic or mouth and a centrfire 22.
during daylite hours.
if you cant defeat a coyote with that, then you should learn to accept them.
roger
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02-10-2011, 10:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf308
holy cow findal,its not a gatway to deer, you sound like a drug counsellor,what have you been smoking? funny though,kinda spooky i dont hunt deer during the day let alone night so there goes that theory. thanx for the imput guys i thought i heard somewhere that it was allowed like other nuiscance like skunks, but guess not.
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Did you "hear" that you can shoot skunks outside of legal light from "somewhere" as well?
Good luck in finding an Alberta law that says you can.
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02-10-2011, 10:31 AM
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problem wildlife
With legite livestock concerns are an issue for F& W. You can get a permit to protect livestock but I doubt with safety concerns you willl ever get permission to discharge firearm after dark. More likely permission to trap as that works 24 hours a day.
I have gone to F& W when livestock predation was a concern and in both instances was told they do not have the manpower to assist farmers to look after problem wildlife. A further call to the ag rep for the MD resulted in receiving a licence to utilize 1080 poison baits.
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02-10-2011, 11:24 AM
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It is a safety concern as at night you can't be sure of your target and beyond. That is one of the basic firearm safety commandments isn't it?
It is a safety issue pure and simple. I have an issue with putting others in danger when a projectile can carry for a couple of miles.
BTW its not legal for skunks either.
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02-10-2011, 11:31 AM
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hey ive gotten lots there roger just asking if anyone knew the rules since its pertaining to a ranch.ive defeated many,interesting choice of words.
and you w buffalo so its my fault i read something along those lines hey?? figured its a nuiscance on my father in laws ranch, you bet,cows and calves is how he makes his money. could be a different province like as in bc allows 22-250s for deer. i dont know where i read it sorry i cant come over and show you personally what i read.
thanx wwbirds for your opinion, yeah as i figured if you spend money on a permit to the goverment you could prob shoot them at night. too dangerous though i agree. not a big deal just was wondering, its actually not a big deal ,no dead calves although ive seen them chasing the calves until i dropped the first one.
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02-10-2011, 02:44 PM
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Here is the law.
http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/w10.pdf
Sections 28 and 53
Section 28
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Hunting at night
28 A person shall not hunt wildlife, except by trapping, during
the period commencing at 1/2 hour after sunset and ending at 1/2
hour before sunrise the following day.
1984 cW-9.1 s30;1996 c33 s20
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Wildlife includes skunks and coyotes.
Section 53
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Discharge of firearm at night
53 Except at a lawfully established and operated shooting range, a
person shall not discharge a firearm during the period referred to in
section 28.
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There are no exceptions granted for ranchers or farmers.
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02-10-2011, 03:20 PM
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Local Pastor
You guys are so serious! My neighbour, a man of the cloth no less also raise Ostriches, and believe it or not the yotes can scale the fence protecting the birds.
So not wishing to be eaten out of his livelyhood, from inside his bedroom, with his wife holding the very bright lite, shoots as many as he can hit with a triple duce.
I told him I thought that it was O.K. because the government had no business in what goes on in the nations bedrooms!
I don't think he skinned the ones he hit. I recall he hung them on the fence to discourage any more predation.
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02-10-2011, 03:38 PM
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If you are going to do it out of necessity then don't go spouting off about it on the internet...........as simple as that!
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02-10-2011, 04:18 PM
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There's a lot goes on out in the country that doesn't make it to the 'net !!
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02-10-2011, 04:20 PM
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yeah and it would be impossible for F & W to trace an ostrich farm operated by a minister on the outskirts of Calgary.
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02-10-2011, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by wwbirds
yeah and it would be impossible for F & W to trace an ostrich farm operated by a minister on the outskirts of Calgary.
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With yotes hangin' on the fence.
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02-10-2011, 05:24 PM
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Gone Hunting
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and a light shining out of the bedroom window in the middle of the night, followed by gunshots.
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02-10-2011, 08:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowtown guy
It is a safety issue pure and simple. I have an issue with putting others in danger when a projectile can carry for a couple of miles.
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All that needs to be said. Who gives a damn if it's legal, it's dangerous. Common sense should prevail... nevermind, who am I kidding.
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