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04-04-2017, 01:54 PM
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Plugged or Un-plugged
Hi Folks,
This is what new regulations say about boat plug:
Don’t forget to ‘Pull the Plug!’ Residual standing water in watercraft is known to be a source of aquatic invasive species and fish disease introductions. All watercraft being transported (e.g. on a road) in Alberta must now have the drain plug pulled while in transport.
does it mean that we should not un-plug the drain plug while travelling?
Thanks
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04-04-2017, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by A.DENG
Hi Folks,
This is what new regulations say about boat plug:
Don’t forget to ‘Pull the Plug!’ Residual standing water in watercraft is known to be a source of aquatic invasive species and fish disease introductions. All watercraft being transported (e.g. on a road) in Alberta must now have the drain plug pulled while in transport.
does it mean that we should not un-plug the drain plug while travelling?
Thanks
A_
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Yes, plug MUST be out in transport. MUST. So the challenge is to remember to put it back in when you go to launch!!!! I fear I will forget some day.
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04-04-2017, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Okotokian
Yes, plug MUST be out in transport. MUST. So the challenge is to remember to put it back in when you go to launch!!!! I fear I will forget some day.
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Yep, my ritual was to always check the plug before I left home. I'll have to adjust or have one of those "oh oh!" moments just after launching the boat
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04-04-2017, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Okotokian
Yes, plug MUST be out in transport. MUST. So the challenge is to remember to put it back in when you go to launch!!!! I fear I will forget some day.
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Just picked a printed one from CT, but it said on pg#12:
"All watercraft being transported (e.g. on a road) in Alberta MUST now have the drain plug PLUGGED while in transport."
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04-04-2017, 02:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A.DENG
Just picked a printed one from CT, but it said on pg#12:
"All watercraft being transported (e.g. on a road) in Alberta MUST now have the drain plug PLUGGED while in transport."
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Regs say don't forget to "PULL THE PLUG"
So that means unplugged... It's not confusing at all
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04-04-2017, 03:48 PM
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Just i idea if you don't want to forget to put your plug back in is there a way to connect it to your key so you don't forget.Just thinking I know you need to start your boat I have a couple inflatables so not sure how big boats work
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04-04-2017, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by vital shok
Just i idea if you don't want to forget to put your plug back in is there a way to connect it to your key so you don't forget.Just thinking I know you need to start your boat I have a couple inflatables so not sure how big boats work
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Attach it to your boat key ring... not a bad idea.
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04-04-2017, 04:03 PM
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Can someone tell me where my plug is on my canoe? Been searching for it for almost a week now.
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04-04-2017, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mapleleafman3
Can someone tell me where my plug is on my canoe? Been searching for it for almost a week now.
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Dave's not home.
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04-04-2017, 04:19 PM
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PULLED or PLUGGED?
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Originally Posted by idaman
Regs say don't forget to "PULL THE PLUG"
So that means unplugged... It's not confusing at all
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I understand your point, sir. but the PRINTED reg is different to online reg:
the online reg says "must now have the drain plug PULLED while in transport"
the printed reg says "must now have the drain plug PLUGGED while in transport"
its confusing: PULLED or PLUGGED?
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04-04-2017, 04:20 PM
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PULLED or PLUGGED?
the online reg says "must now have the drain plug PULLED while in transport"
the printed reg says "must now have the drain plug PLUGGED while in transport"
its confusing: PULLED or PLUGGED?
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04-04-2017, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SNAPFisher
Yep, my ritual was to always check the plug before I left home. I'll have to adjust or have one of those "oh oh!" moments just after launching the boat
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Happened to me at LOTW last summer, thankfully caught it quick and only took on a small amount of water that the bilge handled easily.
I now attach it to to the transom saver so it is there as a reminder when I disconnect that prior to launch.
Ya live...Ya learn!
Cheers,
Scott.
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04-04-2017, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mapleleafman3
Can someone tell me where my plug is on my canoe? Been searching for it for almost a week now.
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Let me get a drill and a wine cork for ya!
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04-04-2017, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SNAPFisher
Yep, my ritual was to always check the plug before I left home. I'll have to adjust or have one of those "oh oh!" moments just after launching the boat
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Mine get hung on the ignition switch so when I start the boat on the trailer I see them right off if I forgot to put them in -which I don't anymore!
Bin that dun dat!!
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04-04-2017, 05:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A.DENG
the online reg says "must now have the drain plug PULLED while in transport"
the printed reg says "must now have the drain plug PLUGGED while in transport"
its confusing: PULLED or PLUGGED?
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The printed regs must have a typo. Pull it. That has been drummed in for the past year.
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04-04-2017, 06:19 PM
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Does anybody with some common sense and a basic understanding of grammar proofread these things before they print them? OMG
Why not use the term "REMOVE" to describe "unplugged" ..... that just seems silly to me.
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04-04-2017, 06:37 PM
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So are this mussels in Alberta lakes already? I understand coming from out of province but our boat has been in the same lake for the 4 years we owned it so unless there here already don't see a point.
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04-04-2017, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by macee
So are this mussels in Alberta lakes already? I understand coming from out of province but our boat has been in the same lake for the 4 years we owned it so unless there here already don't see a point.
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Not in Alberta yet, but in Montana, and Manitoba. Prevention is what the government is trying to achieve. It is unfortunate that your situation, which is very low risk, is caught up in the net. I only go to a few different lakes, all in Alberta, I always pull my plug when leaving a lake, and My plug is tethered to the boat, so its not an issue for me.
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04-04-2017, 07:25 PM
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It is now illegal to transport watercraft in Alberta with the drain plug in. The plug must be pulled before you leave the launch!
Standing water in watercraft is known to be a common source of introductions and spread of fish disease and aquatic invasive species.
Please note, there was a typo in the 2017 Alberta Guide to Sportfishing Regulations regarding this rule (page 12). It is now corrected in the online version.
http://aep.alberta.ca/…/boat…/clean-...your-boat.aspx
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04-04-2017, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mapleleafman3
Can someone tell me where my plug is on my canoe? Been searching for it for almost a week now.
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Blasphemer!
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04-05-2017, 10:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A.DENG
the online reg says "must now have the drain plug PULLED while in transport"
the printed reg says "must now have the drain plug PLUGGED while in transport"
its confusing: PULLED or PLUGGED?
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Originally Posted by WayneChristie
It is now illegal to transport watercraft in Alberta with the drain plug in. The plug must be pulled before you leave the launch!
Standing water in watercraft is known to be a common source of introductions and spread of fish disease and aquatic invasive species.
Please note, there was a typo in the 2017 Alberta Guide to Sportfishing Regulations regarding this rule (page 12). It is now corrected in the online version.
http://aep.alberta.ca/…/boat…/clean-...your-boat.aspx
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Wayne is right. The printed Regs have a spelling mistake. This was noted by Aquatic Invasive Species (AIS) Staff and F&W Officers shortly after the new printed Regs were introduced at the Edmonton Boat and Sportsman Show. The AIS Coordinator was made aware of this immediately and the Online version changed. Too bad the individuals responsible for proof reading the hard copy were not more careful or knowledgeable on the new regulations.
And no, so far, we have no indication of established invasive mussel populations in any AB Lakes monitored over the past 4 years.
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04-05-2017, 11:23 PM
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Their motto is clean, drain, dry. So instead of messing around with the wording and getting all confused let's look at the spirit of the regulation. They don't want water from one lake being transported to the next. Get those plugs removed right when you get out of the lake so your boat can drain. Pretty simple. It's just taking a little time to understand "why".
Hopefully were all on board with it too. AIS are not so much an issue in BC and Alberta yet. So kudos to everyone. Let's keep it up
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04-06-2017, 06:53 AM
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Personally speaking, I have never left a plug in my boats when I pull them out of the water-- EVER
In the fall ice can ice can form in there, inn the summer it can get stinky, and sitting in thee yard they are on the trailer sloped so any water will run out - even when the canopy or tarp iis on.
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04-06-2017, 08:30 AM
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x2, I have seen too many covered buy half full boats on trailers.
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04-06-2017, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by catnthehat
Personally speaking, I have never left a plug in my boats when I pull them out of the water-- EVER
In the fall ice can ice can form in there, inn the summer it can get stinky, and sitting in thee yard they are on the trailer sloped so any water will run out - even when the canopy or tarp iis on.
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This was the main reason I remove mine, so this new regulation don't bother me a bit.. we all have to do our part for prevention..and really how hard is it to pull the plug..
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04-06-2017, 11:07 AM
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Dads old Sears 12 ft Tinner had his plug filled in with a bolt, nut and rubber washers. CT had some that fit so I bought 2 as I know I will lose one
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04-06-2017, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bubba 96
This was the main reason I remove mine, so this new regulation don't bother me a bit.. we all have to do our part for prevention..and really how hard is it to pull the plug..
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04-06-2017, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronbill
Wayne is right. The printed Regs have a spelling mistake. This was noted by Aquatic Invasive Species (AIS) Staff and F&W Officers shortly after the new printed Regs were introduced at the Edmonton Boat and Sportsman Show. The AIS Coordinator was made aware of this immediately and the Online version changed. Too bad the individuals responsible for proof reading the hard copy were not more careful or knowledgeable on the new regulations.
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Sooooo does this provide a legal "get out of jail free" card for anyone who might get ticketed his year? "Your Honour, my client followed the regulations as printed" "You screwed up F&W. Case dismissed". Sort of like how we ended up with no barbless hook regulations...
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04-06-2017, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by catnthehat
Personally speaking, I have never left a plug in my boats when I pull them out of the water-- EVER
In the fall ice can ice can form in there, inn the summer it can get stinky, and sitting in thee yard they are on the trailer sloped so any water will run out - even when the canopy or tarp iis on.
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X2..... same here, first thing I have always done after pulling out of the lake is to remove the plug so the Reg doesn't bother me at all. Remember to also completely lower your motor leg after pulling out to drain the bit of water held in there too and remove all plugs from live wells. The one thing I am not certain of is the "drying" part? Are they saying they want us to towel dry the livewell and hull area after pulling out too because I can't get down to the bottom of the hull in my boat to do so? I can dry the livewell easy enough but not the hull.
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04-06-2017, 01:40 PM
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X2..... same here, first thing I have always done after pulling out of the lake is to remove the plug so the Reg doesn't bother me at all. Remember to also completely lower your motor leg after pulling out to drain the bit of water held in there too and remove all plugs from live wells. The one thing I am not certain of is the "drying" part? Are they saying they want us to towel dry the livewell and hull area after pulling out too because I can't get down to the bottom of the hull in my boat to do so? I can dry the livewell easy enough but not the hull.
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+1 on the motor leg, forgot to do that once and they gave me a friendly stink-eye about it (they were very nice). I've only ever just drained the bilge and livewells before pulling away from the lake and not dried them out. I suspect that if you were coming from a contaminated area they might be pickier about that, but I have not had any issues with that so far.
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