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11-15-2022, 12:48 PM
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Reports say China funded 11 Canadian political candidates in the last Federal election
But the government is not releasing which Candidates.
I don’t care which party they belong to. If anyone in their election campaign knew then it’s illegal and the person should lose there position and another by-election held.
https://vancouversun.com/opinion/col...4-eb31af95d26b
What happened with Liberal promise of government transparency?
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11-15-2022, 01:31 PM
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Who do they work for.
The level of deceit is crazy. Tin foil hats were right.
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11-15-2022, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sundancefisher
But the government is not releasing which Candidates.
I don’t care which party they belong to. If anyone in their election campaign knew then it’s illegal and the person should lose there position and another by-election held.
https://vancouversun.com/opinion/col...4-eb31af95d26b
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They’re not releasing the names because they’re liberals. Finance princess is likely one of those on the list. Maybe Billy is too.
Now if conservatives were n the list they’d be wanting a full review and accountability.
You als can be sure they’re not federal NDP. The Chinese couldn’t care less about the federally NDP.
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11-15-2022, 02:46 PM
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11-15-2022, 03:45 PM
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They’re not releasing the names because they’re liberals. Finance princess is likely one of those on the list. Maybe Billy is too.
Now if conservatives were n the list they’d be wanting a full review and accountability.
You als can be sure they’re not federal NDP. The Chinese couldn’t care less about the federally NDP.
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Exactly!, If there were no liberals involved, every media source would have released the names, and this would be in the news every hour.
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11-15-2022, 04:49 PM
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Question being, were they knowingly funded by the Chinese, or was the money laundered thoroughly before the got it ?
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11-16-2022, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Sundancefisher
But the government is not releasing which Candidates.
I don’t care which party they belong to. If anyone in their election campaign knew then it’s illegal and the person should lose there position and another by-election held.
https://vancouversun.com/opinion/col...4-eb31af95d26b
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This is liberal transparency! Smoke, mirrors, bob and weave better than Ali and finally Bull....!
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11-16-2022, 04:01 PM
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Plausible deniability
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Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1
Question being, were they knowingly funded by the Chinese, or was the money laundered thoroughly before the got it ?
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You can rest assured that money was thoroughly laundered before it landed in Canadian hands. Even so, they know exactly where it came from and what is expected of them.
Every single one of the public officials involved should be named and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
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11-16-2022, 04:27 PM
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And yet Trudeau gets caught up in his usual 2-faced controversy on this matter. Another foreign trip debacle.
World news today that Chinese Xi JinPing berated Trudeau at the G20 for being unprofessional and leaking private conversations to the press. Trudeau responded with a very weak string of platitudes about Canadians "having free and open and frank dialog". Xi was obviously angered at Trudeau's accusations on the Chinese funding Canadian election candidates.
He sure doesn't have those same free and open conversations with us Canadians though. Now you have defended your openness Trudeau, release the names!
What another absolutely hypocritical FAIL by the petulant child.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soSoKu0fyfk
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11-16-2022, 05:24 PM
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Wonder if a FOIP would work. My guess is no given the level of secrecy & corruption at play here. Can’t think of a genuine reason names are being withheld (somehow legally?), the public has a right to know. One way or the other (left or right) this needs to be exposed, period.
Placing a bet they’re lieberals.
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11-16-2022, 06:11 PM
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I don't believe everything I read ,even if its in the journal .
He was in, as soon as he said he would legalize weed.
The next guy will be in , if he legalizes beer at ever food store .
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11-16-2022, 07:08 PM
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And yet Trudeau gets caught up in his usual 2-faced controversy on this matter. Another foreign trip debacle.
World news today that Chinese Xi JinPing berated Trudeau at the G20 for being unprofessional and leaking private conversations to the press. Trudeau responded with a very weak string of platitudes about Canadians "having free and open and frank dialog". Xi was obviously angered at Trudeau's accusations on the Chinese funding Canadian election candidates.
He sure doesn't have those same free and open conversations with us Canadians though. Now you have defended your openness Trudeau, release the names!
What another absolutely hypocritical FAIL by the petulant child.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soSoKu0fyfk
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Tucker was talking about Trudeaus conversation with Xi, something about how the prime minister who likes to dress up got dressed down, pretty hilarious and pathetic at the same time. Totally out of his league
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11-16-2022, 08:30 PM
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"Trudeau responded with a very weak string of platitudes about Canadians having free and open and frank dialog". Xi was obviously angered at Trudeau's accusations on the Chinese funding Canadian election candidates."
Now just WAIT A MINUTE HERE!
JT was frank and open about his influence on the SNC Lavalin investigations on overseas corruption and bribing of Libyan Officials!!! Remember THAT!! (OK, maybe he did not come out and admit his attempt to block the investigation, I'll try again.)
JT was frank and open about his demotion of his Minister of Aboriginal Affairs!!! Remember THAT!!!
(Gee, I'm not doing too well here. I'll try again.)
JT was frank and open about his intention to give to WE FOUNDATION the Billion Dollar contract for the Applications and Processing of the Covid Relief Money!!! Remember THAT!!!
(Well, I am sure that his Party Handlers WANTED him to come out and speak candidly about why WE FOUNDATION was proposed when they really had no experience for the administration of such an important task.)
All right. I guess time and time again JT has not been frank and open with the Canadian Public which makes it such a surprise that he attempts to claim the Moral High Ground when he really has no idea of what the view looks like from up there.
Now one of our biggest alternative trading partners is mad at us again. But what harm can come from that? Right!
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11-16-2022, 08:59 PM
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The G20 Summit meeting is a pretty big deal. The world's leaders are there, the big dogs so to speak. The decorum is set to be luxurious and a great amount of tact is expected so the leaders can actually communicate informally about global issues and are expected to put some differences aside for the sake of world in general.
Canada is one of the small dogs there. Trudeau is acting like that yappy Chihuahua though. You know when you are at a meeting or seminar and there is always that one idiot who is always seeking attention and can't shut up, ya that is Trudeau. Xi Jinping was telling Trudeau exactly that with his dressing down of Trudeau.
When Xi turned away from Trudeau, he muttered a few Chinese words that roughly translated to "naive child" or something like that. Character is generally easy to read and it looks like Xi has the read on Trudeau pretty good.
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11-16-2022, 09:05 PM
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It’s one thing getting a lecture from Mother Teresa…
But getting a lecture from a lying sleaze like Trudeau has to be particularly annoying.
Now I guess it’s much easier to hear about Trudeau’s indiscretions… however hearing him or Freeland talking is like nails on a chalkboard.
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11-16-2022, 09:40 PM
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"Trudeau responded with a very weak string of platitudes about Canadians having free and open and frank dialog". Xi was obviously angered at Trudeau's accusations on the Chinese funding Canadian election candidates."
Now just WAIT A MINUTE HERE!
JT was frank and open about his influence on the SNC Lavalin investigations on overseas corruption and bribing of Libyan Officials!!! Remember THAT!! (OK, maybe he did not come out and admit his attempt to block the investigation, I'll try again.)
JT was frank and open about his demotion of his Minister of Aboriginal Affairs!!! Remember THAT!!!
(Gee, I'm not doing too well here. I'll try again.)
JT was frank and open about his intention to give to WE FOUNDATION the Billion Dollar contract for the Applications and Processing of the Covid Relief Money!!! Remember THAT!!!
(Well, I am sure that his Party Handlers WANTED him to come out and speak candidly about why WE FOUNDATION was proposed when they really had no experience for the administration of such an important task.)
All right. I guess time and time again JT has not been frank and open with the Canadian Public which makes it such a surprise that he attempts to claim the Moral High Ground when he really has no idea of what the view looks like from up there.
Now one of our biggest alternative trading partners is mad at us again. But what harm can come from that? Right!
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You forgot how he let the Canadians in the trucker convoys exercise their rights to free speech and peaceful protests and how he had dialogue with those same truckers. How he promotes freedom of speech in Canada as long as you’re not misguided or of difference in opinion of the federal liberal party!
Or maybe that never happened.
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Three weeks before Canada’s 2019 federal election, national security officials allegedly gave an urgent, classified briefing to senior aides from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s office, warning them that one of their candidates was part of a Chinese foreign interference network.
According to sources, the candidate in question was Han Dong, then a former Ontario MPP whom Canadian Security Intelligence Service had started tracking in June of that year.
National security officials also allege that Dong, now a sitting MP re-elected in 2021, is one of at least 11 Toronto-area riding candidates allegedly supported by Beijing in the 2019 contest. Sources say the service also believes Dong is a witting affiliate in China’s election interference networks.
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More here https://globalnews.ca/news/9504291/l...-interference/
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Trudeau was strongly implying today that it’s racist to ask questions about China interfering in Canadas elections. It’s almost like he has something to hide
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If this gets swept under the rug again like everything else we are legit doomed as a country.
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If this gets swept under the rug again like everything else we are legit doomed as a country.
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With everything that has already been swept under the rug are you really expecting anything different
Just think this is only the stuff that has been exposed just imagine all the fun things Canadians don’t hear about
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02-27-2023, 10:47 PM
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According to JT, demanding accountability for this mess, is an attack on the legitimacy of our government, akin to Trump supporters attempting to overthrow their government.
So if you're demanding answers, you're threatening our democracy.
His mouthpiece media will quickly move this to the back page, and his finger will hover over the Emergency Act button.
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Why isn’t there a criminal investigation?
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No surprises as corruption runs amuck in politics, religion heck anything that mankind touches for that matter.
If you think there’s is a perfect entity within our societies well your fooling yourself big time.
That is why nothing surprises me just kinda expect it.
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Why isn’t there a criminal investigation?
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Because it benefitted Trudeau, it's that simple.
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02-28-2023, 07:05 AM
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Trudeau was strongly implying today that it’s racist to ask questions about China interfering in Canadas elections. It’s almost like he has something to hide
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Yup.
One of the most, if not the most racist leaders in the world, lecturing on racism again.
He's guilty on this to the core and scrambling to come up with answers. PP needs to take a hard run at this, just like with the WE scandal. Pressure him hard, and he'll call a snap election. Jag will poop his pants as they aren't close to ready for this. Between this and him calling out Leslyn Lewis he may just have crossed a line he can't come back from.
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02-28-2023, 07:07 AM
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No surprises as corruption runs amuck in politics, religion heck anything that mankind touches for that matter.
If you think there’s is a perfect entity within our societies well your fooling yourself big time.
That is why nothing surprises me just kinda expect it.
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This is very serious
It is not just that Foreign governments funded some of a few Liberal campaigns, what is next? Would they choose candidates, it wouldn't be that hard. Look at that guy Santos in the USA he was funded by it looks like foreign money.
We need a full open investigation and find ways to stop this. No one has yet mentioned Russia or the US but any thing is possible.
We are having enough trouble governing ourselves and the last thing we need is outside interference!
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It is not just that Foreign governments funded some of a few Liberal campaigns, what is next? Would they choose candidates, it wouldn't be that hard. Look at that guy Santos in the USA he was funded by it looks like foreign money.
We need a full open investigation and find ways to stop this. No one has yet mentioned Russia or the US but any thing is possible.
We are having enough trouble governing ourselves and the last thing we need is outside interference!
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This is just what we see now. We already know there are Chinese operated police operating in Canada. What else are they doing. Doesn't CISIS have a responsibility and an obligation to share this information?
Someone at CISIS needs to stand up and hold the liberals to account. If they don't CISIS is as corrupt as the RCMP as the federal goverment.
CISIS staff should not fear the loss of their job for bringing verifiable National Threats to the forefront.
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We have a common theme here folks.
Weekly scandals, and nothing of relevance ever happens. Always swept under.
History shows it.
Remember the big residence casino bust at or near Toronto a few years ago? The main player (Chinese) gave what I recall 1 million bucks or so to the Trudeau foundation I believe.
Having said that, turd has a bit of a hill to climb on the most recent ones...
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It is not just that Foreign governments funded some of a few Liberal campaigns, what is next? Would they choose candidates, it wouldn't be that hard. Look at that guy Santos in the USA he was funded by it looks like foreign money.
We need a full open investigation and find ways to stop this. No one has yet mentioned Russia or the US but any thing is possible.
We are having enough trouble governing ourselves and the last thing we need is outside interference!
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Talk to your MP. Oh wait. They are useless. And probably in on the spoils.
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