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Old 09-05-2022, 08:22 PM
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Default Chetamon Mountain Fire

I for one believe this fire is a blessing in disguise’s to be happening at this time of year to burn up some of that free standing fuel.

Could be so far worse if this fire occurred earlier in the year and if the wind took hold. The park is so poorly managed (not managed at all really) it’s a absolute catastrophe in the waiting.

I say let that sucker burn until she burns herself out.
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Old 09-05-2022, 09:51 PM
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Sounds like you have an intimate understanding of Parks Canada's management capabilities. Unfortunately this fire does nothing to reduce the fuel that threatens the community and I highly doubt the logging they did a few years ago will protect the community against any fire approaching from the west. If I could only convince my wife to leave Jasper...
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Old 09-05-2022, 11:03 PM
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The same park that lit their own airport on fire while commencing a controlled burn? Not managed? Nahhhh

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Old 09-06-2022, 08:42 AM
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The only positive would be if it is burning the pine beetle trees. If it is burning healthy pine forest it is terrible waste of good wildlife habitat.
PS nobody will want to visit a National Park that looks like a disaster area.
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Old 09-06-2022, 09:57 AM
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It's burning infrastructure ( hydro poles) so why would they fight it. Once again, unelected officials making very large decisions that affect a lot of peoplekind.
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Old 09-06-2022, 11:07 AM
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It was only a matter of time. All the beetle kill is getting bad. I lived near there for 15 years. Every year got worse and nothing done about it. I got caught in the middle of that "controlled burn" when they almost burnt down that little landing strip.

I used to be on a wildfire crew, parks has been neglecting this issue and now its come to bite them
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Old 09-06-2022, 11:37 AM
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How far is away from other towns. How long would it take to get to Brule in a lite wind? It was so smoky here in Hinton people where going to the hosiptal. How much is it costing to fight per day? What would it cost to put it out the morning it started? I think the people who make this decisions should be looking for a new job.
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Old 09-06-2022, 12:00 PM
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I'm amazed this hasn't happened years ago with all that free standing fuel.
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Old 09-08-2022, 09:31 AM
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If only there had been someone burying a line thru the park in the last few years. Underground transmission lines don't burn
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Old 09-08-2022, 09:54 AM
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Underground transmission lines are very costly $$ especially for high voltage lines like 240KV.
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Old 09-08-2022, 10:02 AM
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The burning off of years and years of fuel littering the forest floor is a benefit to the health of the forest - so it does have some positive effects on new habitat, deciduous growth, etc... which, as we know improves conditions for wildlife.

Unfortunately there is some human made infrastructure that will be impacted.

It was a time bomb ticking away .... and the alarm bell just went off
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Old 09-08-2022, 10:21 AM
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The only positive would be if it is burning the pine beetle trees. If it is burning healthy pine forest it is terrible waste of good wildlife habitat.
PS nobody will want to visit a National Park that looks like a disaster area.
We need to think of the squirrels!
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Old 09-08-2022, 01:01 PM
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We need to think of the squirrels!
Tree rats have plenty of old growth pine (coniferous) forest. I won't loose a tear knowing that.
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Old 09-08-2022, 01:06 PM
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The only positive would be if it is burning the pine beetle trees. If it is burning healthy pine forest it is terrible waste of good wildlife habitat.
PS nobody will want to visit a National Park that looks like a disaster area.
Mature Pine (coniferous) forests do not support nearly as much biodiversity as new growth/mixed/post fire areas.

In a perfect world you would have some of both and the wilderness would keep cycling in a way to balance that.
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Old 09-08-2022, 08:27 PM
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Pine trees (jack and lodgepole) need fire to open up the pine cones to release the seeds. Whitebark pines also benefit with pine cones that are lit up. So fire = good.
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Old 09-09-2022, 09:16 AM
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PS nobody will want to visit a National Park that looks like a disaster area.
I wouldn’t go that far. We have had plenty of fires inside Yellowstone over the years including right along the highway that burned everything. People still show up in record numbers. The acres of dead forest by Mount Rushmore from pine beetle or the desolate areas around Mount Saint Helen’s, slowly growing back but still visible destruction.
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Old 09-23-2022, 09:24 AM
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The fire was really good for generators sales and rentals...my 2000 Honda got a really good workout.
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Old 09-23-2022, 12:54 PM
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The only positive would be if it is burning the pine beetle trees. If it is burning healthy pine forest it is terrible waste of good wildlife habitat.
PS nobody will want to visit a National Park that looks like a disaster area.
Just have to look at Waterton to see how fast the country recovers, actually very pleasant, but a change. They were afraid the Vermillion Pass wildfire of 2003 would cross into the Bow River valley, which hadn't burned in well over a hundred years. Banff and Canmore would have been toast.

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