Well he (Trudeau) did it again

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by IronNoggin

Yep:

Eight times international media has lashed out at Trudeau

https://tnc.news/2022/09/21/internat...media-trudeau/

[jungleboy]

Originally Posted by dr.crentist

Trump fan?

I think a lot of what people are upset with is overblown in terms of the PM and I'm sure every country has that. I'm sure there is a forum where the exact same is being said for every world leader, some statements are true and some are just people being upset.

The last guy down south was a comedy show, they tolerated him so if he doesn't look directly at the sun (among many other things), they should tolerate our guy.

Actually no they did not tolerate him, the media went after him relentlessly for everything he said or did and a lot of things he didn’t. They are still beating that dead horse every chance they get.
The difference up here is the media has drank deeply at the Liberal koolaid jug and are completely blind to anything stupid this half wit does.
I swear Trudeau could commit murder and the media would figure out a way to blame his victim while commending him for being an excellent shot.

[dr.crentist]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

Actually no they did not tolerate him, the media went after him relentlessly for everything he said or did and a lot of things he didn’t. They are still beating that dead horse every chance they get.

Maybe there's something there? I mean he seems like a nice guy, certainly qualified and hasn't done half the stuff ol' Trud has done. Right? I just don't know why everyone is so mean to him.

The difference up here is the media has drank deeply at the Liberal koolaid jug and are completely blind to anything stupid this half wit does.
I swear Trudeau could commit murder and the media would figure out a way to blame his victim while commending him for being an excellent shot.

Again. I don't think it's as terrible as this echo chamber is making it out to be. Things could certainly be better, yes, absolutely. Unfortunately the conservative showing has been weak and leadership even weaker but instead of proposing crucifying the current guy maybe we come up with a plan for the next election instead of Karen-ing it up in this small corner of the internet.

You have a plan? Sit down and write it up, send it to the new guy, maybe he'll make you a cabinet minister.

[Twisted Canuck]

Originally Posted by dr.crentist

I don't think it's as terrible as this echo chamber is making it out to be. Things could certainly be better... Unfortunately the conservative showing has been weak and leadership even weaker.....maybe come up with a plan for the next election instead of Karen-ing it up in this small corner of the internet.

Did you want people to take you seriously? Have you looked at what has happened to this country in the last 7 years and the condition it is currently in? I don't have the energy to make a list for you.

Also, referring to the AO community as an echo chamber, and a bunch of Karens, is skating close to the edge of being insulting (check the forum rules on this) and trolling.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck

Did you want people to take you seriously? Have you looked at what has happened to this country in the last 7 years and the condition it is currently in? I don't have the energy to make a list for you.

Also, referring to the AO community as an echo chamber, and a bunch of Karens, is skating close to the edge of being insulting (check the forum rules on this) and trolling.

The short list would be the debt, the economy, and inflation. Anyone that can't see how he influenced those three things, simply doesn't want to see it.

[Twisted Canuck]

The constant scandals and corruption, undermining the trust in Canada's institutions, invoking the Emergency Act to flex State Authority, and the divisiveness of his Covid policies. These things corrode the fabric of Canadian society. They may have a longer lasting effect then destroying the economy.

[RACKER]

If this was never put on social media not one person would have cared.Im doubting there is anyone that researches all expenses /trips /conferences that goverment employees have done.Im thinking there was more covered to non Liberals as well.

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Originally Posted by dr.crentist

Maybe there's something there? I mean he seems like a nice guy, certainly qualified and hasn't done half the stuff ol' Trud has done. Right? I just don't know why everyone is so mean to him.



Again. I don't think it's as terrible as this echo chamber is making it out to be. Things could certainly be better, yes, absolutely. Unfortunately the conservative showing has been weak and leadership even weaker but instead of proposing crucifying the current guy maybe we come up with a plan for the next election instead of Karen-ing it up in this small corner of the internet.

You have a plan? Sit down and write it up, send it to the new guy, maybe he'll make you a cabinet minister.

There’s always other threads/corners of the web to visit if this theme isn’t to your taste. I’d stay away from throwing insults at contributors.

[silvertip]

Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck

The constant scandals and corruption, undermining the trust in Canada's institutions, invoking the Emergency Act to flex State Authority, and the divisiveness of his Covid policies. These things corrode the fabric of Canadian society. They may have a longer lasting effect then destroying the economy.

I agree with you on that point.

But there is a lot of yip yap back and forth about this and no ideas.

What needs to be done is some constructive ideas brought forth to nip this in

the butt.

Brain storming comes to mind, sure most have heard of it.

I'm sure it's going on now but will take time to develop.

[dr.crentist]

Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck

Also, referring to the AO community as an echo chamber, and a bunch of Karens, is skating close to the edge of being insulting (check the forum rules on this) and trolling.

I had no idea my comments were so offensive. I apologies to anyone who's feelings may have been hurt.

It's crazy to think that I'm on the line here with my comments when a few posts ago someone was calling for a crucifixion. So a call to violence and referring to people as idiots is ok as long as it's not directed to anyone in this thread?

Things seem to be leaning to one side.

[K.J]

He had to do something. The queen died and was getting all of the attention.

[Twisted Canuck]

Originally Posted by dr.crentist

I had no idea my comments were so offensive. I apologies to anyone who's feelings may have been hurt.

It's crazy to think that I'm on the line here with my comments when a few posts ago someone was calling for a crucifixion. So a call to violence and referring to people as idiots is ok as long as it's not directed to anyone in this thread?

Things seem to be leaning to one side.

I think you may have misunderstood a friendly comment. Hard to get tone sometimes from posts. If you were really over the line I suspect one of the other mods would have sent you a warning or suspended you. Just trying to keep the conversation friendly, without any inadvertent insults or comments that may provoke people.

As far as things leaning maybe one way? Well you kind of have to read the room. This is the Alberta Outdoorsman forum. Not the GTA Granola Recipe Forum, right? So things are bound to have a slant to them.

I didn't catch the post about a public crucifixion, but in truth it's really hard to read every post. We don't condone the promotion of violence, so that is why there is a function to report posts. They will be deleted if you report them, and the mods rely on the community to help police threads and keep things civil.

[tirebob]

Originally Posted by tirebob

Alright folks!

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[landowner]

Justin is now heading to the Japanese PM state funeral. Wondering what he’ll sing there…” turning Japanese “ ?

[Positrac]

Originally Posted by K.J

He had to do something. The queen died and was getting all of the attention.

Bahahaha! This about sums it all up.

[WayneChristie]

Originally Posted by landowner

Justin is now heading to the Japanese PM state funeral. Wondering what he’ll sing there…” turning Japanese “ ?

"Blowing in the wind" would be a good one, too bad the typhoon is dying off.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

Actually no they did not tolerate him, the media went after him relentlessly for everything he said or did and a lot of things he didn’t. They are still beating that dead horse every chance they get.
The difference up here is the media has drank deeply at the Liberal koolaid jug and are completely blind to anything stupid this half wit does.
I swear Trudeau could commit murder and the media would figure out a way to blame his victim while commending him for being an excellent shot.

Trudeau’s dead horse is blaming Harper for everything still. At the same time the media doesn’t point out the fact that Justin has been worse on all counts such as excessive control of the party as seen by his treatment of women such as Jody Wilson Raybould.

In the US the right media says Trump is a true Christian upholding Christian values. Can’t be more false.

The left media says he has no redeeming values however they ignore that he has more business knowledge than Biden.

[zabbo]

Originally Posted by Trochu

I view it like this.

If I go golfing, get smashed, and flip the golf cart on it's side in a sand trap, no biggie, probably happens more than I think it does.

If I'm golfing at a charity golf tournament representing my employer and I get smashed, flip the golf cart on it's side in a sand trap, it's kind of a bigger deal.

Trudeau was representing Canada, at a fairly somber, dignified event. While there is nothing wrong with his actions in a bubble, that clearly wasn't the time or the place.

This seems to sum it up in a nut shell! The only thing I would add; 'It" proves once again how stupid "it" is. If "it" wants to have a drink and/or sing, don't do it in a very public place where no doubt someone will get video and post it on public media. Stupid is as stupid does!

Duhoo canukistan!

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Originally Posted by K.J

He had to do something. The queen died and was getting all of the attention.

Best comment yet, you win the internet, well done KJ :-)