Poison On Our Land

[Gifted Intuitive]

This afternoon at 4:30 APTN Television will broadcast a program called APTN Investigates. It documents a group of Indigenous Elders expressing their concerns about the use of glyphosate-based herbicides to the World Health Organization. The usage pertains to aerial application of glyphosate on forested land.
If you hunt in an agricultural area with grain crops the animals you harvest can have up to four blasts of deadly herbicides, fungicides and pesticides in one growing season.
Where is the Provincial Government, the Alberta Fish& Game, and other conservation organizations when this poisoning is happening ?
An ATV disturbing the surface of a terrain is a tragedy: an airplane or a crop sprayer soaking wildlife in deadly chemicals is not a concern. Why does this First Nations group have to go to the World Health Organization to have this tragedy addressed ?

[Zip]

Originally Posted by Gifted Intuitive

This afternoon at 4:30 APTN Television will broadcast a program called APTN Investigates. It documents a group of Indigenous Elders expressing their concerns about the use of glyphosate-based herbicides to the World Health Organization. The usage pertains to aerial application of glyphosate on forested land.
If you hunt in an agricultural area with grain crops the animals you harvest can have up to four blasts of deadly herbicides, fungicides and pesticides in one growing season.
Where is the Provincial Government, the Alberta Fish& Game, and other conservation organizations when this poisoning is happening ?
An ATV disturbing the surface of a terrain is a tragedy: an airplane or a crop sprayer soaking wildlife in deadly chemicals is not a concern. Why does this First Nations group have to go to the World Health Organization to have this tragedy addressed ?

Very good question...I hope something can be done here as those that hunt for food will be filling their Bellys with this stuff, and over time I'm sure that would pose a very big health issue, our foods have been poisoning us for years...true!
Zip

[st99]

the problem, is according to health canada roundup is safe for use

[sharpstick]

Roundup is only one of dozens if not hundreds of different sprays used...
I would like to see these people drink a glass of round up to prove to us its safe.

[sako1]

Originally Posted by sharpstick

Roundup is only one of dozens if not hundreds of different sprays used...
I would like to see the3se people drink a glass of round up to prove to us its safe.

I get what you are saying. But i wouldn't want to drink a glass of chlorine either.

[mulecrazy]

soooo much BS, soooo little time. clearly some have a very different view of what is actually a poison and what makes it poisonous. spraying roundup on your canola will have ZERO effect on wildlife and humans. period..... Unless of course you have your tinfoil hat on. then everything is poison designed to suppress the population.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by mulecrazy

soooo much BS, soooo little time. clearly some have a very different view of what is actually a poison and what makes it poisonous. spraying roundup on your canola will have ZERO effect on wildlife and humans. period..... Unless of course you have your tinfoil hat on. then everything is poison designed to suppress the population.

That's not actually true and we are one of the last countries to start understanding that. It has an affect and not a good one. If. You need to use a tinfoil hat to ignore issues I heard they are equally effective.

[Jack Hardin]

Originally Posted by sharpstick

Roundup is only one of dozens if not hundreds of different sprays used...
I would like to see these people drink a glass of round up to prove to us its safe.

About 25 years there was a program on the radio regarding how safe was Round-Up. The person who developed Round-Up said that he actually drank a glass of Round-Up. He also said that Round-Up just destroys the chlorophyll and when it lacks chlorophyll the plant will die.

Just for the record, I will not drink a glass of Round-Up however, I use it every summer to control weeds around the driveway and what not around the acreage.

[ReconWilly]

Agenda 21 and 2030.

Time to end the United Nations.

[does it ALL outdoors]

Originally Posted by ReconWilly

Time to end the United Nations.

'Nuff said....

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by Jack Hardin

About 25 years there was a program on the radio regarding how safe was Round-Up. The person who developed Round-Up said that he actually drank a glass of Round-Up. He also said that Round-Up just destroys the chlorophyll and when it lacks chlorophyll the plant will die.

Just for the record, I will not drink a glass of Round-Up however, I use it every summer to control weeds around the driveway and what not around the acreage.

I use various chemicals here every year. Roundup doesn't concern me nearly near as much as all the others. Damn broadleaf

[Drewski Canuck]

What is really tragic is that Alberta Forestry has approved the spraying of roundup on cut blocks to kill the deciduous tree saplings.

They then plant spruce and pine on the cut block. Grass that did grow on the open cut blocks is also eliminated.

Deciduous saplings create ground cover for wildlife much quicker than the replanted conifers, and the grass is available browse and creates seeds for the birds and mice.

Instead, you are left with a large open area that is barren and a killing zone for the predators.

Willow and Poplar are browse all year long for deer, elk, and moose. Not Spruce and pine.

The Horticulturalists will explain that using roundup speeds up the growth of the conifers, because they do not have to compete with the faster growing deciduous trees or the grass.

Regardless of whether Roundup is a cumulative toxin or not, in the areas that the forestry companies are operating, they are destroying valuable habitat for wildlife.

Drewski

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by Drewski Canuck

They then plant spruce and pine on the cut block. Grass that did grow on the open cut blocks is also eliminated.





Drewski

I will use the west country here for an example, as I am quite familiar with it. Every replanted cutblock is grass covered. If roundup is applied, it will be to small patches.
If the grass is killed off (good luck killing off the grass with a single application, I try that every year at my place) it will be replaced with weeds. That's not happening. You believe that all these blocks out here consist of seedling conifers and dirt? Ha

[bat119]

Roundup has been used since 1976 shouldn't we all be dead by now?

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by bat119

Roundup has been used since 1976 shouldn't we all be dead by now?

or if your looking for a government handout......

[Scott h]

Originally Posted by bat119

Roundup has been used since 1976 shouldn't we all be dead by now?

Interesting that you should say that. This week a study was published in the BMJ that shows a direct correlation in the incidence of autism.

[Drewski Canuck]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

I will use the west country here for an example, as I am quite familiar with it. Every replanted cutblock is grass covered. If roundup is applied, it will be to small patches.
If the grass is killed off (good luck killing off the grass with a single application, I try that every year at my place) it will be replaced with weeds. That's not happening. You believe that all these blocks out here consist of seedling conifers and dirt? Ha

Yes, in the first year after the helicopter application to the cut block, with a very strong Glyophosphate designed to kill willow and poplar suckers, nothing is left. In the following years, the grass does return, and you are left with a bunch of dead saplings with spruce and pine seedlings.

I am upset because these cut blocks used to attract moose out of the heavy stands of spruce. That is why I want there to be sapling poplar and willow.

This forest edge is what makes the forest productive for the wildlife. Heavy timber hides game, but there really is not much browse for moose in spruce stands.


Drewski

[calgarychef]

Originally Posted by Drewski Canuck

Yes, in the first year after the helicopter application to the cut block, with a very strong Glyophosphate designed to kill willow and poplar suckers, nothing is left. In the following years, the grass does return, and you are left with a bunch of dead saplings with spruce and pine seedlings.

I am upset because these cut blocks used to attract moose out of the heavy stands of spruce. That is why I want there to be sapling poplar and willow.

This forest edge is what makes the forest productive for the wildlife. Heavy timber hides game, but there really is not much browse for moose in spruce stands.


Drewski

I couldn’t agree more, logging should produce habitat but it doesn’t as that habitat regeneration is killed to encourage conifers.

[Scott h]

Originally Posted by Drewski Canuck

What is really tragic is that Alberta Forestry has approved the spraying of roundup on cut blocks to kill the deciduous tree saplings.

They then plant spruce and pine on the cut block. Grass that did grow on the open cut blocks is also eliminated.

Deciduous saplings create ground cover for wildlife much quicker than the replanted conifers, and the grass is available browse and creates seeds for the birds and mice.

Instead, you are left with a large open area that is barren and a killing zone for the predators.

Willow and Poplar are browse all year long for deer, elk, and moose. Not Spruce and pine.

The Horticulturalists will explain that using roundup speeds up the growth of the conifers, because they do not have to compete with the faster growing deciduous trees or the grass.

Regardless of whether Roundup is a cumulative toxin or not, in the areas that the forestry companies are operating, they are destroying valuable habitat for wildlife.

Drewski

This !!!!
Seems insane to kill off thousands of acres a year of moose/deer browse and then wonder why wildlife numbers are down......

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by Scott h

This !!!!
Seems insane to kill off thousands of acres a year of moose/deer browse and then wonder why wildlife numbers are down......

You're kidding right? Do you get out of the city to actually see what goes on, or do you collect your information from social media.
Each and every new cutblock out here increases ungulate forage 10 fold. As I mentioned in a previous post, the gullibility of the masses astonishes me.

[Scott h]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

You're kidding right? Do you get out of the city to actually see what goes on, or do you collect your information from social media.
Each and every new cutblock out here increases ungulate forage 10 fold. As I mentioned in a previous post, the gullibility of the masses astonishes me.

Oh please, try to get grip. Cut blocks and fires create tons of feed, unfortunately once they green up spraying them with round up kills off all that feed.

[Battle Rat]

Originally Posted by Drewski Canuck

What is really tragic is that Alberta Forestry has approved the spraying of roundup on cut blocks to kill the deciduous tree saplings.

They then plant spruce and pine on the cut block. Grass that did grow on the open cut blocks is also eliminated.

Deciduous saplings create ground cover for wildlife much quicker than the replanted conifers, and the grass is available browse and creates seeds for the birds and mice.

Instead, you are left with a large open area that is barren and a killing zone for the predators.

Willow and Poplar are browse all year long for deer, elk, and moose. Not Spruce and pine.

The Horticulturalists will explain that using roundup speeds up the growth of the conifers, because they do not have to compete with the faster growing deciduous trees or the grass.

Regardless of whether Roundup is a cumulative toxin or not, in the areas that the forestry companies are operating, they are destroying valuable habitat for wildlife.

Drewski

For what you are saying it would take multiple ongoing applications or the grass and broadleafs will keep returning.
Round up is by no means a sterilent.

[cody j]

People say you can drink Roundup and it won’t hurt you. I haven’t seen anyone drink any

[Big Grey Wolf]

I use lots of herbicides like 24-D etc. However I am totally opposed to using Round-up to spray my wheat I will use for baking my bread in the fall and spraying my moose pasture/cut block meat that I feed my family.
Gifted' what an excellent scientific article on the health risks of Roundup to future generations of our children/grand children.
Glyphosate is a Cancer causing carcinogen, how crazy to spray it on our food!

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by Battle Rat

For what you are saying it would take multiple ongoing applications or the grass and broadleafs will keep returning.
Round up is by no means a sterilent.

100% correct. Actually 200% correct.
I spray roundup a few times in the same spots every year.

The country west of me is heavily logged. Certainly no cutblocks devoid of grass
Why on earth would that be their goal? Can you imagine the erosion?
Cutblocks in this country, from the flatter lands of burnstick to further west in the big hills are a haven for wildlife

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by Gifted Intuitive

This afternoon at 4:30 APTN Television will broadcast a program called APTN Investigates. It documents a group of Indigenous Elders expressing their concerns about the use of glyphosate-based herbicides to the World Health Organization. The usage pertains to aerial application of glyphosate on forested land.
If you hunt in an agricultural area with grain crops the animals you harvest can have up to four blasts of deadly herbicides, fungicides and pesticides in one growing season.
Where is the Provincial Government, the Alberta Fish& Game, and other conservation organizations when this poisoning is happening ?
An ATV disturbing the surface of a terrain is a tragedy: an airplane or a crop sprayer soaking wildlife in deadly chemicals is not a concern. Why does this First Nations group have to go to the World Health Organization to have this tragedy addressed ?

You lost me at APTN. Propaganda filled for your viewing pleasure. Not sure which is worse, APTN, CBC, or CNN.

Croplands are sprayed with roundup once a year. Many sprayed twice if desiccating. I would be more concerned over that than a one time application on a very small portion of logged out areas (before replanting).

Soaking wildlife in deadly chemicals? Haha, give me a break. Sounds like a quote from the script of the APTN "special"

I shake my head at the gullibility of the masses nowadays. Must be the roundup

[bobtodrick]

Originally Posted by mountainti

you lost me at aptn. Propaganda filled for your viewing pleasure. Not sure which is worse, aptn, cbc, or cnn.

Croplands are sprayed with roundup once a year. Many sprayed twice if desiccating. I would be more concerned over that than a one time application on a very small portion of logged out areas (before replanting).

Soaking wildlife in deadly chemicals? Haha, give me a break. Sounds like a quote from the script of the aptn "special"

i shake my head at the gullibility of the masses nowadays. Must be the roundup

^^^^^this^^^^^

[ETOWNCANUCK]

Makes you wonder how we ever got to over 7 billion people on the planet?

Poison on everything and yet the human race flourishes, not perishes.

[Ranets]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

You lost me at APTN. Propaganda filled for your viewing pleasure. Not sure which is worse, APTN, CBC, or CNN.

Croplands are sprayed with roundup once a year. Many sprayed twice if desiccating. I would be more concerned over that than a one time application on a very small portion of logged out areas (before replanting).

Soaking wildlife in deadly chemicals? Haha, give me a break. Sounds like a quote from the script of the APTN "special"

I shake my head at the gullibility of the masses nowadays. Must be the roundup

X2 Exactly this just another reason to try for more free rides.It is starting to get a little old.

[calgarychef]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

You lost me at APTN. Propaganda filled for your viewing pleasure. Not sure which is worse, APTN, CBC, or CNN.

Croplands are sprayed with roundup once a year. Many sprayed twice if desiccating. I would be more concerned over that than a one time application on a very small portion of logged out areas (before replanting).

Soaking wildlife in deadly chemicals? Haha, give me a break. Sounds like a quote from the script of the APTN "special"

I shake my head at the gullibility of the masses nowadays. Must be the roundup

It’s not the fact that it’s found up. It’s that natural regeneration isn’t allowed to take place. That logging would create great game habitat, instead it will be turned into a sterile plantation of conifers with little else growing there.

Think what our game populations would be like without this spraying?