Breaking news: Shooting at Virginia tech

leeaspell · #1 12-08-2011

Listening to fox news on sirius radio and there has been a shooting in the parking lot of the university about 2 hours ago. Details are scarce but there was another round of gun fire abouy 20 minutes ago. Post more details as i hear them. One cop and at least one student killed. Suspect still at large

Scott N · #2 12-08-2011

That's certainly not good news. But.... I thought VT was a "gun free" zone?

leeaspell · #3 12-08-2011

I guess making it gun free didnt help much

Scott N · #4 12-08-2011

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Originally Posted by leeaspell

I guess making it gun free didnt help much

I shouldn't joke about someone losing their life, but it does go to show how "effective" gun control is.

leeaspell · #5 12-08-2011

I wonder if this will show up in pro registry debates here now especially since a cop was killed. Hope theu find the loser and send him to the chair

James M · #6 12-08-2011

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...e-officer.html

Jamie Black R/T · #7 12-08-2011

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I shouldn't joke about someone losing their life, but it does go to show how "effective" gun control is.

thats not offensive....cause its true...an armed guard or two on campus could make all the difference...not even to mention if they allowed concealed carry.

hoping this turns out better than the last time...its off to a terrible start

leeaspell · #8 12-08-2011

Thanks for posting the link. Dont know how to copy and paste on phone lol

fordtruckin · #9 12-08-2011

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Originally Posted by Jamie Black R/T

thats not offensive....cause its true...an armed guard or two on campus could make all the difference...not even to mention if they allowed concealed carry.

hoping this turns out better than the last time...its off to a terrible start

Virginia Tech has its own police force, as do most large universities in the US. As for gun free zones you can't carry on school property as its against most state statutes.

HunterDave · #10 12-08-2011

Initial reports sounds to me to be some sort of criminal as opposed to a wacko on a shooting spree.

Jamie Black R/T · #11 12-08-2011

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Virginia Tech has its own police force, as do most large universities in the US. As for gun free zones you can't carry on school property as its against most state statutes.

so the gun free only applies to criminals and the students then?

James M · #12 12-08-2011

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Originally Posted by Jamie Black R/T

so the gun free only applies to criminals and the students then?

By the looks of it...it only applies to campus cops and students.

FishingMOM · #13 12-08-2011

A campus police officer was killed following a routine traffic stop shortly after noon, and a second victim was found in a nearby parking lot, the school said in a statement. There were witnesses to the shooting.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A ROUTINE TRAFFIC STOP

fordtruckin · #14 12-08-2011

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so the gun free only applies to criminals and the students then?

and your point is? When you get a CCW there are rules about where you can and can not carry. Schools are one of those places as are Banks, Federal Facilities, Bars ect.... Police obviously would be exempt from that.

Jamie Black R/T · #15 12-08-2011

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and your point is? When you get a CCW there are rules about where you can and can not carry. Schools are one of those places as are Banks, Federal Facilities, Bars ect.... Police obviously would be exempt from that.

i was asking what gun free could possibly mean.....your answer is it means nothing that was not already established by carry laws.

thanks.

fordtruckin · #16 12-08-2011

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Originally Posted by Jamie Black R/T

i was asking what gun free could possibly mean.....your answer is it means nothing that was not already established by carry laws.

thanks.

ok so restate your question so that a normal person can understand what your asking? Your question sounds more like a statement.

eastcoast · #17 12-08-2011

does your own personal questions about the gun registry have anything to do with this shooting?

FishingMOM · #18 12-08-2011

Gun free. Means only law enforcement may carry a weapon.

Ford was trying to tell you that there are a number of places that legal gun owners can not take a gun. Those include Airports, Banks and Schools. However Police officers are exempt from these regulations!

Jamie Black R/T · #19 12-08-2011

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ok so restate your question so that a normal person can understand what your asking? Your question sounds more like a statement.

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so the gun free only applies to criminals and the students then?

its a pretty damn simple question.....every forum this is posted on people are going on about how making this school gun free did nothing....my understanding is the school was always gun free.

im not trying to make a political statement at all...it was a legitimate question....either you severely lack in reading comprehension or you were just assuming i was trying to make a point, and went on the defensive.

understandable given the behavior on this board over the years.

anyway! back on topic.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/08...ech/?hpt=hp_t3

huntinstuff · #20 12-08-2011

Gun Free. Hmmmm
Appears the criminal did not care.

CCW should be anywhere/anytime. Wherever there are people, CCW should be valid. And in places where there are no people too.....

Rod1960 · #21 12-08-2011

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A manhunt that locked down Virginia Tech University came to an end today when police indicated that a gunman who ambushed a cop on the campus later died of gunshot wounds.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/virginia-te...ry?id=15114257

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Police: Va. Tech shooter not person pulled over

BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) — A gunman walked into a parking lot and killed a Virginia Tech police officer who was conducting a traffic stop on campus Thursday, state police said.

Sgt. Robert Carpentieri said it appeared that the shooter was not in the car that had been pulled over. The sergeant said another officer later spotted a second person in a different parking lot who was alive at the time. That person, a white man, later died of a gunshot wound.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...fb7eefc27a19fb

eastcoast · #22 12-08-2011

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Gun Free. Hmmmm
Appears the criminal did not care.

CCW should be anywhere/anytime. Wherever there are people, CCW should be valid. And in places where there are no people too.....

jails,churches,elementary schools,little leagues,the mall?

honda450 · #23 12-08-2011

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Ford was trying to tell you that there are a number of places that legal gun owners can not take a gun. Those include Airports, Banks and Schools. However Police officers are exempt from these regulations!

Dang and where do most of these mass shootings occur. Why......... schools of course. Nobody can defend themselves or others. Many innocent people die for this reason.

eastcoast · #24 12-08-2011

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Dang and where do most of these mass shootings occur. Why......... schools of course. Nobody can defend themselves or others. Many innocent people die for this reason.

so you would be totally comfortable with your kids kidnegarten teacher packing a 357 on his/her hip while teaching?

honda450 · #25 12-08-2011

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so you would be totally comfortable with your kids kidnegarten teacher packing a 357 on his/her hip while teaching?

Depends what her hips looked like. hehehe

Most of these shootings eastcoast are made at the college level not at the grade school level.

Rod1960 · #26 12-08-2011

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jails,churches,elementary schools,little leagues,the mall?

Works for me. Add to that grocery stores, the doctors office, movie theaters and grandma's house.

eastcoast · #27 12-08-2011

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Works for me. Add to that grocery stores, the doctors office, movie theaters and grandma's house.

private businesses can restrict anything or anybody they want from entering.

huntinstuff · #28 12-08-2011

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jails,churches,elementary schools,little leagues,the mall?

Yes. Everywhere. What good is a gun if you need it and it's at home?

eastcoast · #29 12-08-2011

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Yes. Everywhere. What good is a gun if you need it and it's at home?

so absolutely everywhere? no restriction at all?

bowhunter9841 · #30 12-08-2011

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Originally Posted by huntinstuff

Gun Free. Hmmmm
Appears the criminal did not care.

CCW should be anywhere/anytime. Wherever there are people, CCW should be valid. And in places where there are no people too.....

Gun control is in place to keep people working! If everyone had a right to carry a concealed weapon, the crime rates would drop like crazy, criminals would no longer be "safe" to do whatever they want to the helpless victims! And the police would no longer be needed! We live in a place where you can't protect yourself until it's already too late!

Honestly, if someone breaks into my house, and I call the police, that's at least 5 minutes till a police cruiser will be there. If I go grab my gun from the cabinet, that's about 1 minute! Hmmm... What will make my family
Safe quicker???? Gun laws are a joke! And so is our justice system! I