The nerve of some People

[ruttnbuckcojack]

The night of Dec 21,2012 vandils broke into my work trailer in Sylvan lake.
They took everything, And now being the hoidays I'm lost for words, Why WHY, They not only stolen all the tools I work so hard to buy with my own money but they stole from my wife and kids, I'll loose time on the job, my employees loose time off, this is not the kinda holidays I was expecting to have. I'm kind'n thinking the world has gone for Shhit. Any ways if anyone has any information on this incident please contact the Sylvan RCMP, I'm posting a Reward

[Good Ol' Boy]

Sorry to hear about that Ruttn, nothing is more vile than stealing a mans livelyhood. Seems these days everything has to be locked up and under armed guard or it walks away. Try to forget about it for a few days and have a great Christmas with your family.

Merry Christmas

[Mike_W]

Originally Posted by Good Ol' Boy

Sorry to hear about that Ruttn, nothing is more vile than stealing a mans livelyhood. Seems these days everything has to be locked up and under armed guard or it walks away. Try to forget about it for a few days and have a great Christmas with your family.

Merry Christmas

X2 Bad luck but don't let it ruin Christmas!!

[Twisted Canuck]

That totally sucks, and I can relate. I had my work van broken into and about $20K worth of tools stolen right before Christmas 12 yrs ago, 6 yrs before that all my hand tools stolen from my work truck (locked up) right after my first child was born... Insurance finally payed after a fight, but as you say, lost time, lost income doesn't get replaced. That and the feeling of being ripped off by some junky loser who would take a man's means of making a living from him to go get a fix for Christmas.....I hope you don't personally find the people before the police do, because they'll punish you worse than the criminal for what you'd probably do to them. Sorry for your tough luck, but hopefully you can still have a Merry Christmas, and all the best in the New Year.

[7mm08]

Sorry to say, work trucks and trailers are a gold mine for thieves. Its a simple fact. They know they can easily sell what they can take. I feel we should be able to defend our property if we catch them, but, I have an assault charge from about 6 years ago for doing just that when I caught someone breaking into my work truck. Didnt matter half my tools were found in his truck when the police showed up. Just glad the charges were reduced from assault with intent to kill. And the poor thief was released from hospital with a pat on the back and a "so sorry the bad man hurt you" from the justice system. Sucks to be a working class man who defends his stuff.
I am sorry you got ripped off, and hope they can recover your stuff. Not that it will replace your trust in society or your piece of mind, but its better than nothing.

[just_dave]

People won't stand around for this bull forever. Less protection for criminals is coming.

[ruttnbuckcojack]

They cut the lock off with a grinder, while there was two occupied homes 30 yards away, 2 rcmp officers with in half a block and then had the decentcie to go and break into another trailer 3 blocks away. There was a black sunfire seen leaving the seen with two individuals, but I think there was more than one vehicle.

[Lonnie]

Originally Posted by just_dave

people won't stand around for this bull forever. Less protection for criminals is coming.

when

[Elko]

Part of the problem lies with those that support these loosers by buying those tools, they can only sell them if someone is willing to buy those cheap street corner tools.
These scum are just as bad as the guys who spend all night stealing.

[Alberta Bigbore]

Sorry to hear the bad news... keep the spirit up and help your kids enjoy a great christmas

[cougar chaser]

unless they stole the donut machine the cops wont help ya much.... way too much paper work

[Lone_Wolf]

Soooo........they went into the future, the day the world ends, and stole from you?

Kidding aside, this is terrible. And what a time of year to do it, too.

[sunsetrider2011]

POS!!!!! especially this time of year, there is too much free rein for bs like this,,, there needs to be capital punisment brought back,, public hangings,, public floggings,, and shoot first ask questions later,, before anything changes,, Society has gone to hell in a handbasket,, try not to let it ruin your xmas

[Smokey]

Sucks about the trailer...

but public hangings...seriously...criminals deserve real punishments, but you want that kinda justice move to Iran.

[leeaspell]

Originally Posted by sunsetrider2011

POS!!!!! especially this time of year, there is too much free rein for bs like this,,, there needs to be capital punisment brought back,, public hangings,, public floggings,, and shoot first ask questions later,, before anything changes,, Society has gone to hell in a handbasket,, try not to let it ruin your xmas

But theives have feelings too ya know, we must respect them and treat them well. Last thing we want to do is offend or embarrase them by making them accountable for what they done. My god man, have you no heart
lol

[rugatika]

Caught once you get a stiff sentence. Caught twice you get a stiff sentence that makes the first stiff sentence look like a cakewalk.

I know people say building jails doesn't stop crime...but frankly that sounds like liberal bawling to me. There is no reason society should have to put up with this crap. Career criminals need to be locked up for a good 10 to 15 years for crap like this. NO, I'm not kidding. I don't give a rat's behind about rehab, or that they didn't get enough hugs as kids, or they're addicted to drugs or whatever. Lock them up and get them off the street so we don't have to worry about them anymore. What's more...everything they own should be considered to have been acquired illegally and auctioned off with the funds going to a victims fund or something.


Merry Christmas!

[leeaspell]

Should have the 3 strike rule like California. Except its 3 strikes for any crime. Possesion of controled substance strike one. Shop lifting, strike 2, robbing someones trailer of tools,, strike 3 BAMM 20 years.

[antlercarver]

Jack What kind of tools do you need ?

[just_dave]

Originally Posted by Lonnie

when

Sooner then later if people are more vocal. Be heard.

[rwm1273]

We don't need more jails, we just need to send our prisoners to isolate places and islands. No place for them to run, and when they are there, give them forced labor or they don't get to eat. Let them crush rocks. Make them build roads in the far north. Perhaps have them inhabit the desolate locations that we claim for territorial rights, and it will solve that issue too.

I have some people who like to walk through our yard. They have a problem leaving the gate open, and then my dog gets out. Have not seen anything stolen from the yard yet, other than a bag of pop cans we had in the back yard. Not sure what to do. Perhaps get a trail cam to capture the culprits.

[leeaspell]

Originally Posted by rwm1273

We don't need more jails, we just need to send our prisoners to isolate places and islands. No place for them to run, and when they are there, give them forced labor or they don't get to eat. Let them crush rocks. Make them build roads in the far north. Perhaps have them inhabit the desolate locations that we claim for territorial rights, and it will solve that issue too.

I have some people who like to walk through our yard. They have a problem leaving the gate open, and then my dog gets out. Have not seen anything stolen from the yard yet, other than a bag of pop cans we had in the back yard. Not sure what to do. Perhaps get a trail cam to capture the culprits.

What we need is a modern day Australia. An island in the middle of the ocean to send them to.
I have sort of the same issue, a group of 3 drunk homeless native guys roaming around my house. Have had lots of stuff gone missing. Nothing major, 2 bags of cans, small bbq, 2 axes, but it gets annoying after a while. I cant leave anything that might be worth anything in the back of my truck, had a snow brush and a jug of windshield wash taken last winter.I cant prove that it was them but im pretty sure it is, seen him snooping around a few days ago when the dog ran him off. Called the cops once and they told me unless I seen them do it theres nothing they can do about it. Its not against any law to be a homeless drunk guy wandering around someones house. Man I want a new place lol

Originally Posted by ruttnbuckcojack

The night of Dec 21,2012 vandils broke into my work trailer in Sylvan lake.
They took everything, And now being the hoidays I'm lost for words, Why WHY, They not only stolen all the tools I work so hard to buy with my own money but they stole from my wife and kids, I'll loose time on the job, my employees loose time off, this is not the kinda holidays I was expecting to have. I'm kind'n thinking the world has gone for Shhit. Any ways if anyone has any information on this incident please contact the Sylvan RCMP, I'm posting a Reward

That dose suck hopefully your insurance will cover the loss.

[thunderheart]

what do you say to that kind of nonsense except a very dejected f***

it can be a heart breaker for sure ...

[trophyboy]

I hate thieves. These oxygen thieves should be found and shot, end of story!

[KegRiver]

Originally Posted by rugatika

Caught once you get a stiff sentence. Caught twice you get a stiff sentence that makes the first stiff sentence look like a cakewalk.

I know people say building jails doesn't stop crime...but frankly that sounds like liberal bawling to me. There is no reason society should have to put up with this crap. Career criminals need to be locked up for a good 10 to 15 years for crap like this. NO, I'm not kidding. I don't give a rat's behind about rehab, or that they didn't get enough hugs as kids, or they're addicted to drugs or whatever. Lock them up and get them off the street so we don't have to worry about them anymore. What's more...everything they own should be considered to have been acquired illegally and auctioned off with the funds going to a victims fund or something.


Merry Christmas!

Sounds good, but the problem with prisons is that there is no exposure.
A criminal can hide his deeds within those walls, folks outside seldom know anything about the individual criminal or his crimes. Other then the victims.

I think a better way would be to lock criminals in stocks at the local mall with a large poster stating what they did, when they did it and to whom.
The embarrassment of becoming a public spectacle would be enough to deter a lot of crime and for repeat offenders.
For those who would not be embarrassed by such a sentence, at least it serves as a warning to others and as a warning to the public that this individual is living among them and WILL do this to them if given a chance.

For it to have maximum effect, it would also be necessary for the public to be willing to forgive, when a criminal proves he or she has changed their ways.
It may not sound fair, but the simple reality is that if you remove all hope for a decent future, you remove all incentive to change.

[FishingFrenzy]

Originally Posted by rwm1273

We don't need more jails, we just need to send our prisoners to isolate places and islands. No place for them to run, and when they are there, give them forced labor or they don't get to eat. Let them crush rocks. Make them build roads in the far north. Perhaps have them inhabit the desolate locations that we claim for territorial rights, and it will solve that issue too.

I have some people who like to walk through our yard. They have a problem leaving the gate open, and then my dog gets out. Have not seen anything stolen from the yard yet, other than a bag of pop cans we had in the back yard. Not sure what to do. Perhaps get a trail cam to capture the culprits.

You need a sign that says the following "Yard guarded by shotgun one day a week, you pick which day"

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by rugatika

Caught once you get a stiff sentence. Caught twice you get a stiff sentence that makes the first stiff sentence look like a cakewalk.

I know people say building jails doesn't stop crime...but frankly that sounds like liberal bawling to me. There is no reason society should have to put up with this crap. Career criminals need to be locked up for a good 10 to 15 years for crap like this. NO, I'm not kidding. I don't give a rat's behind about rehab, or that they didn't get enough hugs as kids, or they're addicted to drugs or whatever. Lock them up and get them off the street so we don't have to worry about them anymore. What's more...everything they own should be considered to have been acquired illegally and auctioned off with the funds going to a victims fund or something.


Merry Christmas!

I'd add no perks, puters etc. and work for keep. I'd also pay special attention to those found with drugs in prison.

Sell their stuff and build more prisons.

[Fisherpeak]

Man,I`m sorry to hear about your theft.If I lived there and had a line on those sh1tbags I would`nt want a reward.
But you would have to gut and skin them yourself.I only deliver.

[walking buffalo]

Merry Christmas Ruttin!

Don't let this get you and your family down.

Originally Posted by just_dave

People won't stand around for this bull forever. Less protection for criminals is coming.

Originally Posted by Lonnie

when

Bill C-26 has passes second reading and is before commitee. These punks have until spring before the Public can and will fight back....

http://parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/...5261265&file=4

BILL C-26

Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate and House of Commons of Canada, enacts as follows:

SHORT TITLE

1. This Act may be cited as the Citizen’s Arrest and Self-defence Act.

CRIMINAL CODE

1992, c. 1, s. 60 (Sch. I, s. 20)(F)

2. Sections 34 to 42 of the Criminal Code are replaced by the following:

34. (1) A person is not guilty of an offence if
(a) they believe on reasonable grounds that force is being used against them or another person or that a threat of force is being made against them or another person;
(b) the act that constitutes the offence is committed for the purpose of defending or protecting themselves or the other person from that use or threat of force; and
(c) the act committed is reasonable in the circumstances.

34. (2) In determining whether the act committed is reasonable in the circumstances, the court may consider, among other factors,
(a) the nature of the force or threat;
(b) the extent to which the use of force was imminent and whether there were other means available to respond to the potential use of force;
(c) the person’s role in the incident;
(d) whether any party to the incident used or threatened to use a weapon;
(e) the size, age and gender of the parties to the incident;
(f) the nature, duration and history of any relationship between the parties to the incident, including any prior use or threat of force and the nature of that force or threat;
(g) the nature and proportionality of the person’s response to the use or threat of force; and
(h) whether the act committed was in response to a use or threat of force that the person knew was lawful.

34. (3) Subsection (1) does not apply if the force is used or threatened by another person for the purpose of doing something that they are required or authorized by law to do in the administration or enforcement of the law, unless the person who commits the act that constitutes the offence believes on reasonable grounds that the other person is acting unlawfully.

35. (1) A person is not guilty of an offence if

(a) they either believe on reasonable grounds that they are in peaceable possession of property or are acting under the authority of, or lawfully assisting, a person whom they believe on reasonable grounds is in peaceable possession of property;

(b) they believe on reasonable grounds that another person
(i) is about to enter, is entering or has entered the property without being entitled by law to do so,
(ii) is about to take the property, is doing so or has just done so, or
(iii) is about to damage or destroy the property, or make it inoperative, or is doing so;
(c) the act that constitutes the offence is committed for the purpose of
(i) preventing the other person from entering the property, or removing that person from the property, or
(ii) preventing the other person from taking, damaging or destroying the property or from making it inoperative, or retaking the property from that person; and
(d) the act committed is reasonable in the circumstances.


35. (2) Subsection (1) does not apply if the person who believes on reasonable grounds that they are, or who is believed on reasonable grounds to be, in peaceable possession of the property does not have a claim of right to it and the other person is entitled to its possession by law.

35. (3) Subsection (1) does not apply if the other person is doing something that they are required or authorized by law to do in the administration or enforcement of the law, unless the person who commits the act that constitutes the offence believes on reasonable grounds that the other person is acting unlawfully.



3. (1) Subsection 494(2) of the Act is replaced by the following:

494. (2) The owner or a person in lawful possession of property, or a person authorized by the owner or by a person in lawful possession of property, may arrest a person without a warrant if they find them committing a criminal offence on or in relation to that property and

(a) they make the arrest at that time; or
(b) they make the arrest within a reasonable time after the offence is committed and they believe on reasonable grounds that it is not feasible in the circumstances for a peace officer to make the arrest.



3. (2) Section 494 of the Act is amended by adding the following after subsection (3):

494. (4) For greater certainty, a person who is authorized to make an arrest under this section is a person who is authorized by law to do so for the purposes of section 25.

[fordtruckin]

Originally Posted by cougar chaser

unless they stole the donut machine the cops wont help ya much.... way too much paper work

well with no suspects what do you expect them to do? A report will be written for insurance purposes...at least with us thats what we do UNLESS the reporting party does not want us to do anything and a short report is STILL written stating 10-22 No further action!

to the OP sorry for this happening. People are Gay when it comes to things like this. Oh well Karma will get them!