Public Enemy No 1

Big Daddy Badger · #1 03-11-2012

Ran across this today and was just well....floored.

The old guy did what this kids parents are obviously incapable of doing....he held the brat accountable.

I just can't imagine having such a lack of integrity and pride that I'd support my kid making a complaint like this and testify against someone that had just tried to impart a life lesson that I'd failed to pass on.

Oh boo hoo the big scarey 74 year old man grabbed me by the scuff of the neck and drove me a couple blocks to the police.
If it was my kid he would have been riding the toe of my boot home from there... picking up cleaning supplies and heading straight over to that guys place to clean up the mess he made and apologize.

I hope every homeowner in that town that has had their place vandalized gets together one night and tags...toilet papers and eggs their home.
Maybe then they'd get the message.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/03/08...onting-vandals

guywiththemule · #2 03-11-2012

Little "puke" needs a life lesson along side of his liberal parents.

RubberChicken · #3 03-11-2012

OOOOOooooooohhhhh, it's those sssssccccarrryyyy Liberals again!!!!!!!

(Wife jumps into my arms and we run fast as we can)

Nait Hadya · #4 03-11-2012

careful what you wish for. last thing the canadian public needs is some demented seniors out there policing the land, taking the law into their own hands. using their vehicles as weapons,running law abiding citizens off the road,lieing to police and gettiing away with it because they are old and forgetful. what if that old basterd decided to teach the kid a lesson on some back street on the way to the station? a little sodomy will fix em. don't think that kind of trash lives in canada? think again.

Sneeze · #5 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Nait Hadya

careful what you wish for. last thing the canadian public needs is some demented seniors out there policing the land, taking the law into their own hands. using their vehicles as weapons,running law abiding citizens off the road,lieing to police and gettiing away with it because they are old and forgetful. what if that old basterd decided to teach the kid a lesson on some back street on the way to the station? a little sodomy will fix em. don't think that kind of trash lives in canada? think again.

haha, good one???

jamhead · #6 03-11-2012

The old guy did what this kids parents are obviously incapable of doing....he held the brat accountable.

Yup! If the parents didn't want this to happen to their kid, then they should have put more effort into training him up right. The kid should just be glad it was a disabled senior as the story says, and not someone with a bit more of a dark side!

Accounts like this illustrate why we need castle law here in Canada!

Nait Hadya · #7 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by jamhead

....Accounts like this illustrate why we need castle law here in Canada!

how far would you like this "castle law" to extend from an abandoned property that is not yours?

greylynx · #8 03-11-2012

Oh Pesky, the chlid was trying to express himself. After he is ritalined up and becomes a nice quiet girly-boy there will not be any more problems.

Rocky7 · #9 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Nait Hadya

careful what you wish for. last thing the canadian public needs is some demented seniors out there policing the land, taking the law into their own hands. using their vehicles as weapons,running law abiding citizens off the road,lieing to police and gettiing away with it because they are old and forgetful. what if that old basterd decided to teach the kid a lesson on some back street on the way to the station? a little sodomy will fix em. don't think that kind of trash lives in canada? think again.

Are you on drugs?

vcmm · #10 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by nait hadya

careful what you wish for. Last thing the canadian public needs is some demented seniors out there policing the land, taking the law into their own hands. Using their vehicles as weapons,running law abiding citizens off the road,lieing to police and gettiing away with it because they are old and forgetful. What if that old basterd decided to teach the kid a lesson on some back street on the way to the station? A little sodomy will fix em. Don't think that kind of trash lives in canada? Think again.

wtf?

u_cant_rope_the_wind · #11 03-11-2012

we really need Mr Fuji and his cane to come to this country

and the art of public caning should be retroactive to the great grand parents

FishingMOM · #12 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Nait Hadya

how far would you like this "castle law" to extend from an abandoned property that is not yours?

It was his property. The home belonged to his deceased Mother. He inherited it. He was trying to sell it. If you looked you would see that vandals also burnt down his barn on that property.

Nait Hadya · #13 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by FishingMOM

It was his property. The home belonged to his deceased Mother. He inherited it. He was trying to sell it. If you looked you would see that vandals also burnt down his barn on that property.

so your cool with an old codger grabing an 11 year old child off the street,kidnapping him and assulting him on his way to the police station? Mom? hmm

Mickey · #14 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Rocky7

Are you on drugs?

Response of the year so far.

Exactly what I was thinking. Everyone get out the tinfoil hats.

Rocky7 · #15 03-11-2012

When I was a kid, if that old fart hauled me home for vandalizing his home, his outhouse, his shed or his house for sale down the street, I would have one thought in my mind and one only:

MAN, I HOPE DAD ISN'T HOME!

CamoDerrick · #16 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Nait Hadya

so your cool with an old codger grabing an 11 year old child off the street,kidnapping him and assulting him on his way to the police station? Mom? hmm

Off the street? He was breaking into HIS house on HIS property!

Jamie · #17 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Nait Hadya

careful what you wish for. last thing the canadian public needs is some demented seniors out there policing the land, taking the law into their own hands. using their vehicles as weapons,running law abiding citizens off the road,lieing to police and gettiing away with it because they are old and forgetful. what if that old basterd decided to teach the kid a lesson on some back street on the way to the station? a little sodomy will fix em. don't think that kind of trash lives in canada? think again.

Personal experience????????

Lefty-Canuck · #18 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Rocky7

When I was a kid, if that old fart hauled me home for vandalizing his home, his outhouse, his shed or his house for sale down the street, I would have one thought in my mind and one only:

MAN, I HOPE DAD ISN'T HOME!

X2.....

I would happily go to the police station .....at least my Dad couldn't punish me there....

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Originally Posted by Nait Hadya

careful what you wish for. last thing the canadian public needs is some demented seniors out there policing the land, taking the law into their own hands. using their vehicles as weapons,running law abiding citizens off the road,lieing to police and gettiing away with it because they are old and forgetful. what if that old basterd decided to teach the kid a lesson on some back street on the way to the station? a little sodomy will fix em. don't think that kind of trash lives in canada? think again.

Nait I think you are adding too many "what if's" to the story....take it at face value.

The guy already had a shed burned down...and his Mother's home was being busted into....maybe he should have just called the Cops but his past experience with doing that proved unsatisfactory....a citizens arrest and taking the kid directly to the police station was appropriate in my eyes....

No need to add the creepy details of an old man being inappropriate with a child....because that never happened....

If this was your place what would you have done?....let them walk and call in a description? or protect whats yours?

LC

FishingMOM · #19 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Nait Hadya

so your cool with an old codger grabing an 11 year old child off the street,kidnapping him and assulting him on his way to the police station? Mom? hmm

CRIMINAL CODE[8]
Arrest without warrant by any person
494. (1) Any one may arrest without warrant
(a) a person whom he finds committing an indictable offence; or
(b) a person who, on reasonable grounds, he believes
(i) has committed a criminal offence, and
(ii) is escaping from and freshly pursued by persons who have lawful authority to arrest that person.

Arrest by owner, etc., of property
(2) Any one who is
(a) the owner or a person in lawful possession of property, or
(b) a person authorized by the owner or by a person in lawful possession of property,
may arrest without warrant a person whom he finds committing a criminal offence on or in relation to that property.

[B]Delivery to peace officer
(3) Any one other than a peace officer who arrests a person without warrant shall forthwith deliver the person to a peace officer.[/B]

if getting drug into the police station by the collar and prodding with a cane is bad, then heaven forbid my kid do such a thing cause the police cell would be the best place for a criminal! At 11 that kid knows better than to be destroying someone elses property. The parents are just as bad as the kid since they didn't know where he was or what he was into.

Good on the gentleman for standing up for himself and his property.

Albertadiver · #20 03-11-2012

Where's that Cranky ole' B.... Redfrog when we need him?

pseelk · #21 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Rocky7

When I was a kid, if that old fart hauled me home for vandalizing his home, his outhouse, his shed or his house for sale down the street, I would have one thought in my mind and one only:

MAN, I HOPE DAD ISN'T HOME!

Exactly,If we had a lot more of this maybe those little snots would actually learn there are consequences for your actions.IMO.

Nait Hadya · #22 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by FishingMOM

CRIMINAL CODE[8]
Arrest without warrant by any person
494. (1) Any one may arrest without warrant
(a) a person whom he finds committing an indictable offence; or
(b) a person who, on reasonable grounds, he believes
(i) has committed a criminal offence, and
(ii) is escaping from and freshly pursued by persons who have lawful authority to arrest that person.

Arrest by owner, etc., of property
(2) Any one who is
(a) the owner or a person in lawful possession of property, or
(b) a person authorized by the owner or by a person in lawful possession of property,
may arrest without warrant a person whom he finds committing a criminal offence on or in relation to that property.

[B]Delivery to peace officer
(3) Any one other than a peace officer who arrests a person without warrant shall forthwith deliver the person to a peace officer.[/B]

if getting drug into the police station by the collar and prodding with a cane is bad, then heaven forbid my kid do such a thing cause the police cell would be the best place for a criminal! At 11 that kid knows better than to be destroying someone elses property. The parents are just as bad as the kid since they didn't know where he was or what he was into.

Good on the gentleman for standing up for himself and his property.

what was the criminal offence committed by the 11 year old?

vcmm · #23 03-11-2012

Tresspassing and maybe B and E

jamhead · #24 03-11-2012

If that is assault and kidnapping, what does it take to be called vandalism and theft?

Reading the news story, it sounds a lot more like a citizens arrest by a senior who was sick and tired of the authorities (and parents) not doing their job. At 11 years old, his parents should have had a much better idea of where the kid was and what he was doing. In their failure to do their job someone else stepped in.

When parents fail in their responsibility someone else has to do it, and if the government tries to do it, it is usually a much worse mess. If the kid would take the lesson that there are consequences to his actions it would make him a much better adult.

Nait Hadya · #25 03-11-2012

have the neighbours complained to the city about the abandoned boarded up building?

Kanonfodder · #26 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Nait Hadya

have the neighbours complained to the city about the abandoned boarded up building?

Are you going out of the way to be dick on purpose?

vcmm · #27 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Nait Hadya

have the neighbours complained to the city about the abandoned boarded up building?

So this makes what the kid did OK?

Nait Hadya · #28 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by jamhead

If that is assault and kidnapping, what does it take to be called vandalism and theft?

Reading the news story, it sounds a lot more like a citizens arrest by a senior who was sick and tired of the authorities (and parents) not doing their job. At 11 years old, his parents should have had a much better idea of where the kid was and what he was doing. In their failure to do their job someone else stepped in.

When parents fail in their responsibility someone else has to do it, and if the government tries to do it, it is usually a much worse mess. If the kid would take the lesson that there are consequences to his actions it would make him a much better adult.

ya,pretty spry for a 74 year old with a cane to catch an 11 year old on foot. did he use his vehicle to apprehend the child?

Lefty-Canuck · #29 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Nait Hadya

have the neighbours complained to the city about the abandoned boarded up building?

Honestly Nait,

That has nothing to do with it......the property has some old buildings on it and the property is for sale....are you saying it is ok for the local hoodlums to tresspass, break and enter, and vandalize the place? .....because the buildings are boarded up?

LC

vcmm · #30 03-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Honestly Nait,

That has nothing to do with it......the property has some old buildings on it and the property is for sale....are you saying it is ok for the local hoodlums to tresspass, break and enter, and vandalize the place? .....because the buildings are boarded up?

LC

I guess every old farm building is game according to Nait.