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Old 10-29-2008, 09:27 PM
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I'm about to take the plunge and buy another new rifle. This time I'm looking at one of Browning's lever action (BLR) rifles (http://www.browning.com/products/cat..._id=009#center).

However, I'm concerned that the on-line owners manual for these rifles ( http://media.browning.com/pdf/om/blr_02_262_om_s.pdf ) offers no instructions for disassembly, warns not to try to disassemble the rifle yourself, and implies that you have to take the rifle to a gunsmith when it's time for a complete cleaning!

Does anyone have any experience with these rifles ... is it possible to do a disassemble and proper cleaning without hiring the services of a gunsmith?

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Old 10-29-2008, 09:43 PM
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There is a reason browning says "Do not try to disassemble" these rifles.
They are great rifles, but not at all user friendly in disassembly or worse reassembling.
I know most smiths will not do more than vibratory clean them unless there is a major fubar, then many will simply ship them back to Browning.

I had to take 1 apart while still in school as part of the course, never again.

Short answer to your question NO
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Old 10-29-2008, 10:54 PM
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According to the manual referenced, Browning recommends cleaning the barrel and the inside of the receiver as much as possible without disassembly.

I wound up getting the take-down PG version which is more user-friendly and allows you to clean the barrel from breech to muzzle.

I would agree with ATR (Rick) on not disassembling a BLR otherwise it is easy to screw up the gear timing and one has big issues. If you really have to, find a gunsmith who is a Browning dealer and let him look after it.
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I bought one in '73 and then gave it to an in-law who proceeded to just BEAT it into junk. He gave it back to me just before the mandatory registration date and it was FUBAR, just worthless.

I stripped off the cracked buttstock and cracked forestock, and then soaked the entire thing in naptha over-night. I then cleaned what appeared to be a ruined bore with Sweet's, then JB paste and finished with Shooter's Choice.

I lubed it with Breakfree and then re-finished the wood by epoxy and Dem-Bart stock finish and threw an old scope on it and took it to my club. I really expected saucer size groups and was simply going to dump it to someone looking for a "parts" gun.

I shot about 10 groups and it consistently printed my warmish 180gr. handloads into .6" at 100M. So.....I decided to keep the old timer and then had it re-blued, re-timed and put a B&L 4x Compact on it and will soon replace the mounts with Talleys.

I have YET to shoot a three-shot group over .75" with this 35 yr. old rifle, the bore is shiney and, after paying about $80.00 for a new "clip", the thing works like a champ!

These are GOOD rifles, mine is Belgian made, but, the Miroku ones are also excellent and they are a fine choice for basic hunting. One of my buddies bout one in '72 and shot a big Moose at Golden, BC, with it and then gave it to me for the rest of the year and I did OK with it, so, bought my own.

I clean all my lever rifles and anyn other non-bolt guns by using a simple brass muzzle guard available anywhere. I used one since the late '70s and have found it easy and effective, however, a stout "pull-through" works very well, too and a surplus Lee-Enfield one is perfect.
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There is a reason browning says "Do not try to disassemble" these rifles. They are great rifles, but . . . Short answer to your question NO
Much Thanks 'ATR' ... Your advice is greatly appreciated. If someone with your experience & background says "No", then I'll have to abandon the idea of being able to dismantle a BLR.

For me, that's two 'negatives' against this rifle model ... the first 'negative' being the overly glossy stock. I'm of the school-of-thought that glossy stocks do not belong on hunting rifles ... just my lowly humble opinion.

I haven't abandoned the BLR idea just yet, but I'll have to give it some more thought. Thanks again for your help and advice.


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According to the manual referenced, Browning recommends cleaning the barrel and the inside of the receiver as much as possible without disassembly.

I wound up getting the take-down PG version . . .
Thanks for the 'Heads-Up' John. I dropped by Russell's today and looked at their 'Take-Down' version of the BLR ( http://www.browning.com/products/cat...34&type_id=012 ). You're right ... the 'Take-Down' version offers a LOT more access to the internal workings and also allows for barrel cleaning from the proper end.

One concern though ... is the 'Take-Down' version as accurate? Most 'Take-Down' rifles change the bullet point of impact, each time they are disassembled and then reassembled. Any comments on that concern???


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I bought one in '73 and then gave it to an in-law who proceeded to just BEAT it into junk. He gave it back to me just before the mandatory registration date and it was FUBAR, just worthless.

I stripped off the cracked buttstock and cracked forestock, and then soaked the entire thing in naptha over-night. I then cleaned what appeared to be a ruined bore with Sweet's, then JB paste and finished with Shooter's Choice . . .
Thanks 'Kutenay' ... That's quite a good story, supporting the BLR. It has helped to keep my interest in that model.

Cheers,

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Thanks for the 'Heads-Up' John. I dropped by Russell's today and looked at their 'Take-Down' version of the BLR ( http://www.browning.com/products/cat...34&type_id=012 ). You're right ... the 'Take-Down' version offers a LOT more access to the internal workings and also allows for barrel cleaning from the proper end.

One concern though ... is the 'Take-Down' version as accurate? Most 'Take-Down' rifles change the bullet point of impact, each time they are disassembled and then reassembled. Any comments on that concern???

Cheers,

Dean
Dean, as to accuracy of the BLR takedown - I can't say as I got mine a few weeks ago and haven't gone to the range yet with it. I don't plan on disassembling and re-assembling it too often. As for accuracy following this, I searched a number of forums looking for such information, but could not find any - likely because the BLR take down version is too new. Perhaps after the season when I get a chance to go to the range, I'll do some experimenting on getting it sighted in, shoot a box or so of cartridges, take it apart and re-assemble it and shoot another box to see if there was a significant difference and at what yardage this happened at. Worst comes to worst, I do have a Savage Model 99F in 308 Win solid frame for back up.
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Thanks for the come-back J.S.!

Using 'Google Search', I found an interesting field-test review on Cabela's website, about the new Browning BLR Take-Down Rifle, written by Dan Carlson after he attended the 2007 SHOT Show.

In his second last paragraph, Dan comments; "The rifle was allowed to cool, taken down into two sections, and then reassembled. We commenced firing again with no difference in the point of impact. ... "

Link; http://www.cabelas.com/story-123/car...2Breview.shtml

I don't think his 'test' was very scientific (shooting at bowling pins), but it's still encouraging. When you can fit it in, we'd be interested in hearing about your test results.

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