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11-03-2015, 07:10 PM
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The Ross rifle myth
I've never handled a Ross rifle although growing up I was always told the bolt could be easily assembled wrong causing the bolt hit the shooter in face. The thread about rebarreling one made me curious about this Canadian made rifle. I did some googling and found this interesting video I thought I would share.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaSui_UqDX8
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11-03-2015, 07:31 PM
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I've shot a few of them , all mk111's with the rivet intact- never had the chance to shoot one in 280 however , sure would like to! 
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11-03-2015, 08:24 PM
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I shoot one
Cat any any one else who knows a lot about iron sights. If you look at that video, you can see the rear sight. Mine is like that too, and IMO the notch is too big.
Am I wrong and if so, how do I shoot it accurately?
The peep sight is great and that is what I usually use.
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11-03-2015, 08:40 PM
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" too big" is a lot better than " too small"
Because a smaller notch creates deformation of the front sight picture.
Center the front sight in the rear sight and focus on it ( the front sight)
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11-03-2015, 09:54 PM
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Ah yes "focus" on it.
I think we have isolated my problem. I can no longer focus on; the target and both sights at the same time.
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11-03-2015, 10:00 PM
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I think we have isolated my problem. I can no longer focus on; the target and both sights at the same time.
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Let the target be fuzzy and the front sight perfectly focused / it works!
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11-04-2015, 02:53 AM
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I own a Ross, in .303.
I have never tried to disassemble the bolt. I was always afraid I might reassemble it wrong. Now I'm glad I didn't try.
I also think I could do it safely now.
I'm not sure what the difference is but mine has a different bolt handle.
Mine has a butter knife handle, not the ring type as seen in the video.
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11-04-2015, 05:20 AM
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Let the target be fuzzy and the front sight perfectly focused / it works!
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Yes identify the target, achieve sight picture then focus on front sight, squeeeeeeze, bang, tag it 
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11-04-2015, 07:00 AM
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Let the target be fuzzy and the front sight perfectly focused / it works!
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and let the force be with you....
..and you can actually use the front blade as a bullet drop compensator mk I type. ...more blade showing in the notch for longer distance..
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11-04-2015, 07:15 AM
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The Ross rifle myth
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Originally Posted by catnthehat
" too big" is a lot better than " too small"
Because a smaller notch creates deformation of the front sight picture.
Center the front sight in the rear sight and focus on it ( the front sight)
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Mine has three levels of rear sights, not sure if it's common.
The battle sight, which I think is set for 200yd, then there's two on the flip up, one through the adjustable bit, and another one on the top of the adjustable bit.
I took it in to the lgs to get it looked at before shooting it, and he polished just about every part he could reach. The action is now almost as smooth as my T3. It's a great gun to shoot.
The big hole was from the Ross, even though he's not holding it for the picture
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11-04-2015, 07:29 AM
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The 280 Ross is an interesting cartridge it has the capacity of a 7mm mag but was only loaded to 47,200 PSI giving a 140 gr. bullet 2900 FPS (280 Rem).Cases can be made by removing the belt from 7 Rem. mag, the original bullet was .287 I can see why snipers would use this round it was the battlefield magnum in its day.
The 303 British compared to 280 Ross
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11-04-2015, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bang_on_sk
Mine has three levels of rear sights, not sure if it's common.
The battle sight, which I think is set for 200yd, then there's two on the flip up, one through the adjustable bit, and another one on the top of the adjustable bit.
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it's full military configuration?
I have a book on the Ross and will post some pics
Cat
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11-04-2015, 09:06 AM
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Very advanced action
I don't have the expertise that others on this form have, not even close actually. However I'm very impressed at the sophistication of the action. It was the fore runner of all automatic weapons.
I think it deserves a better reputation than a rifle that failed in the mud.
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11-04-2015, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by densa44
I don't have the expertise that others on this form have, not even close actually. However I'm very impressed at the sophistication of the action. It was the fore runner of all automatic weapons.
I think it deserves a better reputation than a rifle that failed in the mud.
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It's a fine hunting rifle action, but for a rugged Military rifle the M96 Mauser, M98, Lee Enfield, etc are are far superior .
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11-04-2015, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by catnthehat
it's full military configuration?
I have a book on the Ross and will post some pics
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Quote:
Originally Posted by catnthehat
It's a fine hunting rifle action, but for a rugged Military rifle the M96 Mauser, M98, Lee Enfield, etc are are far superior .
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It's not in anything close to military config. The barrel's been chopped and the wood has been mangled.
I have to say, I really like the straight-pull bolt, what an awesome innovation! It's really funny handing it to someone with the action closed and watching them try to rotate the handle up to open it.
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11-04-2015, 08:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bat119
I've never handled a Ross rifle although growing up I was always told the bolt could be easily assembled wrong causing the bolt hit the shooter in face. The thread about rebarreling one made me curious about this Canadian made rifle. I did some googling and found this interesting video I thought I would share.
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Don't assemble a rifle wrong....it won't work.
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Quote:
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It's a fine hunting rifle action, but for a rugged Military rifle the M96 Mauser, M98, Lee Enfield, etc are are far superior .
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The Ross is what happened when politics and nationalism got in the way of common sense in a military equipment decision. Same as today. Jobs in Quebec are more important than suitability and reliability . Of course nobody planned on 4 years of mud slogging either.
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11-04-2015, 11:08 PM
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Cool video. Thanks for posting.
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