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02-28-2007
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My New Deer Stand
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02-28-2007
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Good test for the anti-fog coating lol.
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02-28-2007
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according to the regs it is unlawful to
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# hunt any wildlife while impaired by alcohol or drugs.
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so replace that brew with a nice cold coca-cola or pepsi and your golden
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02-28-2007
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Gunner83:
How old are you ????? 5
The guy posted a great picture.
Leave your two bits out of it !
TUC.
Man I could use a nice warm tree stand right about now.
Might just get me through this crappy winter. Great picture !!!
Keep them coming.
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03-01-2007
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in regards to 3 Sheeps question "how old are you" ....
-old enough to know that any mixture of firearms and alchohol (in any amount) is A) Dangerous B) in poor taste even if just for a funny picture.
-old enough to respect the law
-young enough to know that not everythings posted on a message board on the internet is said to be a shot at somebody. like my first post. unfortunately 'tone' doesn't come across very easily on the web, which is one reason why we have these things (:eek  :\  :lol :rolleyes ) to help. if you go back look you'll notice that i used  , which, at least my intention was, to give the tone of sarcasm and humor.
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03-01-2007
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Thats fine and I accept your apology !!!
Some things are better left unsaid !!!
I do beleive that you know nothing of the law to which you speak !:b Careful how you quote the law !:smokin
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03-01-2007
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Tuc i thought you were from my hood in nova scotia ?,, not saskatchewan,although it wouldnt hurt while in elk and deer camp in the porkies to throw back and enjoy the hunt even further,although a few dancin girls around the tub never hurt
thats if the warden don,t check in on ya.:b
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03-01-2007
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Hey Chef, I'm from Kentville. What hood you from?
BigBull
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03-01-2007
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from spryfield ,hfx there bigbull , how long you been in alberta or are you still in kentville
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03-01-2007
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cool.
I'd say if you have to wear blaze while sitting in a hot tub, ya got some pretty moronic and dangerous hunters around that locale! :lol
But serious question now about tree stands... Check my logic and ethics here for me, I'd appreciate it... I've seen a number of crudely constructed tree stands on some PUBLIC land where I hunt. MY thinking is that I will go ahead and use them. But if someone comes along and says "That's my treestand", I'd just give it up to him without argument and move off to another area. Is that reasonable, or am I breaking some unwritten treestand rules by even using it?
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03-01-2007
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which locale are you referring to there oky,?
And there is a kind of rule ,and its not build it and they will come ,,, meaning anyone who wants to use your stand ,,the rule is if you want to hunt from a stand ,, build your own , a guy doesnt appreciate scouting a location and putting alot of work into a project ,and have some other dude walk in and pop the deer he,s been working for .,
I guess its more curtesy than anything ,, not saying you cant hunt the area , but dont use his stand and dont build one right next to it .
Just my opinion ,i know i hunted from my stand every day for a week and missed one evening and some dude shot the deer i was after even after i walked into my stand a couple times and had to kick the idiot out of my stand .
You think the first time would have been enough ,things were not friendly very much after that and it was the last time i seen him in the area.
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03-01-2007
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Not sure about that Chef.
Seems if it is on public land than it is fair game.
Perhaps a way to deal with it is to leave some what of a schedual in the stand.
I know one thing, you wouldnt have kicked me out with that attitude. If we had a respectful discusion perhaps a compromise would have been reached.
Oko perhaps if you find a tree stand, leave a note asking the fellow to give you a call. If he calls then you guys could work it out.
Public land is excactly that. PUBLIC
Respect on both sides goes along ways
Jamie
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03-01-2007
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good points guys.
Chef, I hadn't thought about the guy building a stand to get at a particular deer, taking all that time, etc. etc.. That makes me more sensitive to the issue.
On the other hand however, the particular stand I'm thinking of has been there at least two years. I don't think it right that a guy can stake out a particular area of public land as his exclusive multi-year hunting territory. So I'm not sure I'd go with the argument that I shouldn't build my own stand in the vicinity.
Perhaps the answer is that people should use those portable temporary stands. That way, no arguments.
Anyway, this has sensitized me and made me realize that I could be dealing with people with widely divergent views on the subject. I just hope it's JAMIE'S stand I end up using! LOL :lol
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03-01-2007
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Jamie my attitude was fine the first time ,but after the second time and he shot a nice 10 point from it that i had been working on all bow season and the start of the rifle season ,, and he never came back because he shot the deer , so why would he come back.I use a portable stand there boys and i purchased it , so its mine and i guarantee someone with that attitude there jamie would be coming down with the tree.
as it is illegal to build a stand and leave it ,but you can build one as long as you remove it at the season end , not like anyone does..so if this is the case then i guess using it is up to you ,and the area isnt the stand owners own domain , i just think if the stand is there then why is it so hard to move down the ways and build or put up your own ,, i said not to build it right next to him ,, and its a safety issue also ... say your sneeking in at dawn and he freeks and takes a shot your way or something .,its called being considerate , imagine if you had your blind in a certain goose field there jamie and you show up and some guy got there first , do you go home and let him have it , or say you are in your blind and some a hole walks in and lays down beside you , he,s noisy and not properly cammoed ,, lights a cigarette every ten minutes ,,,,
where does your opinion lay with that senario.
I say if its public area then first there gets the draw ,if you go around the woods with the attitude that you have a right to someone elses hard work ,then your lazy and inconsiderate.
If there is a way to talk to the guy that hunts that area and get some sort of permission or make a bond so you both use the same area then that would be kool,but if you dont put in the effort , you dont deserve the prize.
PS Im sure tuc would share his stand ,as long as you brought your own bevvies and a couple girlfriends,
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03-01-2007
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say you are in your blind and some a hole walks in and lays down beside you , he,s noisy and not properly cammoed ,, lights a cigarette every ten minutes
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Simple invite him into the blind, pour a coffee and bum smokes for the rest of the morn.
Best case scenario
We shoot birds and I have a new hunting partner
Worst case, I smoked all his smokes and had a good day in the field.
Sometimes we take this hunting to serious.
People first, games second.
If people wish to have a stand to themselves, I suggest taking the steps out with you or chaining up the seat.
If you show up and there is a guy sitting under your stand and it REALLY REALLY ****es you off.. Go buy your own land.
The land and the deer are PUBLIC.
BTW I have heard of places that discourage folks who think they own the woods by coming in and chopping down trees that hold tree stands. Not my way of doing it, but be careful who you **** off.
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Your correct. Just remember your rule applies on a hunt/hunt scenario.
I hope your not the type that parks his vehicle so that others can not access a area.
Jamie
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03-01-2007
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Sorry guys not sharing my stand with anyone except the ladies! :lol
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03-01-2007
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I talked to some guys by Robb this summer that had tree stands established twelve years, they looked more like treehouses. I was considering using a few as they looked abandoned but late August i found the guys out there scouting the locations. They had a few awesome setups, there was a few i marked with a gps and totally missed the treestand the first time there. They said they all got bull elk every season so they had the idea down.
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03-02-2007
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Came to Jasper in 1981 for a summer job, went back to Acadia for 8 months, then back to Jasper and have been here ever since. The hunting, skiing, and fishing is just so much better here!
BigBull
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03-02-2007
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I hear ya on that big bull ,hunting and skiing and alot more exist in the west and has been a faded memory of the east .
So i assume you like it in jasper,you must have one of them fancy treestands out your way ,, wouldnt seem right with the scenery and wildlife all around ,not to enjoy a small luxury like that.
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03-03-2007
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chef was that stand of yours store bought where you put it up and take it down or is it made of wood and was nailed to crown land trees. I would think that it would become crown land property when nailed to crown land trees. That stand would be for all to use...for anyone can say I own that stand. Will where's the proof one can ask, but to avoid an arguement I would head elsewhere.
As for me I own a store bought one and I put it up that morning I take it down that evening, but thats me, for I don't want it stolen. None the less If I did leave it up and I had it chained and locked to a tree and I didn't use it for a few days and someone else did well then I have no one to blame but myself. I should have left a note on it saying own by ________and this stand is private property. Please call this number__________for permission to use this stand. Thankyou.
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03-04-2007
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Hey
I would have to say good for you and who gives a @#%$ about the beer bottle the way things are going next thing you know they will want to drink it for us. I say F--k ummmmm.:lol
Happy Hunting
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03-04-2007
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iteresting topic! another senario..........you set up a bear bait and a stand, on crown land. The stand is home built( lumber nailed to the trees ), the bait is active, you come out to the stand, and there is someone in it. Does he have the right to be there?
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03-04-2007
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Hey
This happened to me a couple of falls ago, but it was my deer stand on public land. I walked in to see someone in my stand with a blaze orange on. I was on the fight right away so I walk up to my stand and asked the guy what F--k he thought he was doing in my stand, his reply was OOOOOO sorry I didn't know it was your's. He got down and again said he was sorry. I explained how much time I spent scouting and setting up the stand. Now I admit looking back that my approach was not to smart I may have been shot and or beat up he could have returned with his friends as I was alone. When you spend the time and do the work it erks the hell out of me that some one would have the gull to help them selves to your hard work, most people have a pretty good idea what goes into it, they just don't care. To answer your question they have just as much right to be there as I do, but the unwritten rule of the respect factor should come into play for all the hard work that others have done. I myself would never dream of crossing the line and climb into another stand built by someone else even on public land. People should use their heads, if they want to be there in the same part of the woods as I, that's fine with me "but" they should put the time and effort to earn a spot in the woods public or not. That's the problem with people these day, we have no respect for each other.
Happy Hunting
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03-04-2007
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Thats a good senario baretrax. I guess Hibackpackers 5 words might help <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>People should use their heads<hr></blockquote> when out hunting. If there is bait in the barrels, or hanging then it would seem that someone is using it, therefor leave it as is and move on.
As for me I have no problem useing a treestand that is already their, exspecailly the ones that I have found for most of them are not in use anymore and I fixed them up. As I said I would leave if asked to.
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03-04-2007
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grand ,,, my stand is store bought and is not locked to the tree.
I know you have no problem using another hunters stand a you talked earlier in the year about being ****ed off at some idiots camping on a lease sight ,, wrecking your hunt and using the area you were hunting , using a stand you had found ,built by another hunter ,,,
I say that is the most 2 faced scenario i have ever heard ,and i have to judge ones ethical position on such a topic.
Why was it such a problem when someone invaded your area to camp out but o k for you to take ownership of another hunters ,stand and probably personal hunting spot.
WHETHER a man has bait or not ,the area has been posted or marked by another hunter who plans on using his stand,
That doesnt mean you cant hunt that area ,but use your head and consider what you are doing ,,, or get out of bed and spend the day and your own money to build a stand or use your portable.
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03-04-2007
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K all you lazy people out there. you think because i have my stand on public land ,you have rights to it,so when you out hunting and your camped on public land ,and decide your gonna use my stand ,do not get upset when i find your quad parked in a thicket and need it to get me to the campsite . oh and your camper thats parked on crown land is also fair game i guess as well as the beers and the grub oh and if ya dont mind i need some gas for my generator.:hat
Think before you take privledge to something you do not own nor did you contribute any effort towards.
We are not talking about out of date rotted and not used for several year old stands here,we are talking about active well used and planned area,s/
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03-04-2007
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do not get upset when i find your quad parked in a thicket and need it to get me to the campsite . oh and your camper thats parked on crown land is also fair game i guess as well as the beers and the grub oh and if ya dont mind i need some gas for my generator.:hat
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Not that I would use someones stand,but sitting in someones stand is a far cry from stealing someones quad or breaking and entering into a camper.If you resort to committing those crimes do not get upset when you are arrested for doing so.:rolleyes
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03-04-2007
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Hey some guys consider the fact that its on crown and that makes it fair game ,so whether its a stand or personal property ,why all of a sudden is there a difference,a person puts hard work into both projects and neither should be invaded.
i personally would not tamper with anyones stand, camper quad or even an old cabin or camp of any sort that i had no vested interest in , i choose my ethics wisely in these situations,knowing how i would feel in reverse situations.
A trapline is on crown land and it is illegal to tamper with this line although you may use this land to hunt but not trap .
These are personal affects of the trapper and are protected by law , so there is an unwritten law to protect the rest of us from being used and abused.IF ITS NOT YOURS ,LEAVE IT ALONE. its that simple.
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03-04-2007
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Well the one good thing we have found so far is that there may be the odd person out there that doesn't know the proper etiquette as far as someone elses stand, at least none have gone " missing " thus far. On a couple other forums that I participate in, guys have had thier stuff stolen. Trees cut down to get at cameras, stands taken, and so on. These forums are american based, but it sure seems to be more of a problem down there than up here so far. I plan on fencing the quarter I just bought, and it is in an area that has a fair bit of hunting pressure, and there are lines and trails that have been used by hunters in the past. Its going to be interesting to see what will happen as far as the limited acccess now. Will I have problems with cut fences and such.
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03-04-2007
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Crown land
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Hey some guys consider the fact that its on crown and that makes it fair game ,
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Yes i would and i would hope in that stand crown land makes it fair game .
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so whether its a stand or personal property
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Now if its personal property like a store bought stand etc i would walk on and not touch it .
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