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Old 02-17-2017, 06:18 PM
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Default epetition sound moderators goes live please sign & share

things have moved along and now a conservative MP Brad Trost has sponsored a epetition
for the legalisation of sound mods here in canada.

here is the link https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Peti...Petition=e-575
please sign and share the link anywhere and everywhere.

also another MP has asked for a paper petition with signatures
Alberta MP Arnold Viersen

This petition will be available for signatures at most of the major Sportsman and Gun Shows in Canada this Spring. Below is a growing list of locations where you can intercept and add your name to this travelling petition:


Permanent Locations:


Laval QC – T.A.S.K. Canada
Lachine, QC – Club De Tir De Ville St-Pierre (CTVSP)
Ottawa ON – Eastern Ontario Shooting Club
Toronto ON – Target Sports Canada
Windsor ON – General Gun & Supply
Harrowsmith ON – SFRC
Ajax ON – Firearms Outlet Canada
Blenheim ON – Rondeau Rod & Gun
Winnipeg MB – Xtreme Gun Shooting Center
Virden MB – Wolverine Supplies
Prince Albert SK – Frontier Firearms & Army Surplus
Medicine Hat AB – The Outdoorsmen
Calgary AB – The Shooting Edge
Calgary AB – Calgary Shooting Centre
Calgary AB – Alberta Tactical Rifle Supply
Red Deer AB – Red Deer Shooting Centre
Vancouver BC – Reliable Gun
Salmon Arm BC - Westside Stores
Surrey BC – International Shooting Supplies

Shows:
Feb 9 – 12 Calgary Boat and Sportsman’s Show
Feb 10-12 Camrose Huntmania
Feb 16-19 Montreal Sportsman Show ***THIS WEEKEND***
March 11-12 Moose Jaw Gun Show
March 15-19 Toronto Sportsman Show
March 16-19 Edmonton Boat and Sportsman’s Show
March 16-19 Quebec City Sportsman Show
March 19-20 HACS Chilliwack Show
March 25-26 Estevan SK Gun Show
March 31-April 2 NB Sportsman Show
Apr 1-2 Dawson Creek Sportsman show
April 14-15 Calgary Easter Gun Show
April 28-30 Cloverdale Hunting & Fishing Show
May 14 Sault Ste Marie- Algoma Rod & Gun club
May 12-14 Fort Mac Gun Show
***Many More To Follow***

Big Thanks to All of Our Strong Supporters for Hosting This Petition!


Please email soundmoderatorscanada@gmail.com if you have a location that you would like to commit to managing and we’ll add it to the above list!
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Old 02-17-2017, 06:46 PM
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Old 02-17-2017, 07:14 PM
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signed. wont reverse the damage done, but would love to save what i have left
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Old 02-17-2017, 08:25 PM
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:28 PM
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:11 PM
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Old 02-18-2017, 03:33 AM
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Old 02-18-2017, 07:53 AM
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Default Sound Moderator Petition

Did a quick search and didn't see this posted here.

It's a petition supported by Brad Trost (CPC leadership candidate) for the government to de-prohibit suppressors for firearms. Similar to what is happening in the US.

https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Peti...Petition=e-575

Sign it! I know petitions don't do much, but if there's enough support maybe in 2019 it can happen.
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Old 02-18-2017, 08:34 AM
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Does anybody have info regarding whether or not suppressors (in areas where legal), have an impact on poaching?
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:36 AM
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Does anybody have info regarding whether or not suppressors (in areas where legal), have an impact on poaching?
Doubt there would be much of a difference in noise levels and therefore "easier" to poach. I read that there is a 25% reduction in dB.

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Old 02-18-2017, 09:45 AM
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Signed the petition

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Old 02-18-2017, 03:10 PM
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Guess I won't sell my .300BLK just yet.....signed and shared
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Old 02-18-2017, 04:45 PM
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Does anybody have info regarding whether or not suppressors (in areas where legal), have an impact on poaching?
You can hunt with cans in Montana and all my coworkers have yet to run across someone using a can to poach. I've only heard of them running into 2 hunters who actually had them. The thing is poachers aren't going to pay the $$ to buy something to do an illegal act they are already doing. My money is they would become more beneficial as range accessories then hunting aids.
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Old 02-18-2017, 05:20 PM
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Maybe there's hope!
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Old 02-18-2017, 05:31 PM
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You can hunt with cans in Montana and all my coworkers have yet to run across someone using a can to poach. I've only heard of them running into 2 hunters who actually had them. The thing is poachers aren't going to pay the $$ to buy something to do an illegal act they are already doing. My money is they would become more beneficial as range accessories then hunting aids.
Thanks. Frankly, I suspect they would be used very little by anybody.
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Old 02-18-2017, 05:38 PM
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Signed. I'd buy one if legal, or possibly 2.
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Old 02-18-2017, 08:53 PM
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Thanks. Frankly, I suspect they would be used very little by anybody.
I have several rifles fitted with suppressors in New Zealand, they have applications were they are very useful, Gopher's, and rifle range work, being two likely ones, up here,

I see little point, on large game, and only use mine on my 2506, 7x57 or .264 win, when on a control job, were multiple animals are to be shot, around livestock, when hunting with others or when hunting over a dog.
You commented above about poaching, not really of any advantage, as reduce noise by about 25%, it is much harder to tell sound direction, on a moderated rifle thought.
Very common, to find someone in New Zealand hunting, with a suppressed, short action, .243, 708, 308 etc, chopped to 16-18" with a over barrel suppressor, we call these types of rifles bush pigs, short handy, and bit less noisy, so don't disturb other game as much,
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Old 02-27-2017, 11:29 AM
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i had one sound mod that i swapped between my 223 and 308.
the 30cal sound mod still work a treat on the 223.

also my 10/22 and air rifles all had sound mods on them.

this is when i lived in the UK
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Old 02-27-2017, 11:54 AM
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Anyone part of a site like this in Saskatchewan or Newfoundland? Numbers lacking in those provinces, and both have a lot of hunters and shooters. need to get the word out.
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Old 02-27-2017, 01:44 PM
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Anyone part of a site like this in Saskatchewan or Newfoundland? Numbers lacking in those provinces, and both have a lot of hunters and shooters. need to get the word out.
i did post up on saskmen outdoors
i also emailed the wildlife federation for them to distribute the info within its organisation(not heard back from them)
also emailed the FN assembly to again distribute the info throughout all the provincial reserves.

admittingly sask is lacking in signatures
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Old 02-27-2017, 03:34 PM
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If this dream comes true I will be purchasing and using on several guns, both for hunting and for target shooting.
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:27 PM
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Il never use one they look gay on a rifle but i signed it
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Old 02-27-2017, 05:04 PM
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I signed one of the paper copies at a store. Could anyone here who has even been on an industrial worksite even imagine what the result would be of trying to ban a logical, safe and effective piece of safety equipment would be? They protect hearing and noise reduce pollution, what's the logic behind specifically banning them?

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Old 02-27-2017, 05:05 PM
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Old 02-27-2017, 07:02 PM
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I ain't signing it. I just simply love noise.
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Old 02-27-2017, 07:17 PM
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They better pass it or we not hear the end of the butt hurt whining going on lol
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Old 02-28-2017, 12:16 AM
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People on here ask me for examples of "what right wing agenda" this would make the list.
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Old 02-28-2017, 03:23 AM
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People on here ask me for examples of "what right wing agenda" this would make the list.
So do you have a problem with suppressors?
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Old 02-28-2017, 11:14 AM
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Poachers? Criminals? Pointless argument, if people are involved in nefarious activities do you think they really care if sound suppressors are legal?? What next put speed limit signs up and specific hunting seasons? That will stop criminal activity, LOL. Good folks that obey the law are looking for a practical application not criminal intent.
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Old 02-28-2017, 11:50 AM
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People on here ask me for examples of "what right wing agenda" this would make the list.
I don't understand how this is a right vs left issue. Why are you trying to make it one?
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