Archery tags on draw!!!

[whitetail Junkie]

I was just sitting down with some hunting buddies again tonight and my one friends came up with a good point.We all hunt with rifles and apply in the same wmu for muledeer buck and get drawn about every four years,which is a long wait.In the mean time I know bow hunters that shoot a muledeer buck in that same wmu every year.So how is it fair that some albertans get to shoot a mule deer buck once a year,while I only get to shoot a mule deer buck once every four years? I think most wmu's should be on draw for archery,so that the tags and deer numbers are managed better.If your a bowhunter ,then you only hunt with a bow with your archery season draw tag.If your a rifle hunter,then you only hunt with a rifle with your rifle season draw tag.Simple as That!!!

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

We all hunt with rifles and apply in the same wmu for muledeer buck and get drawn about every four years,which is a long wait.In the mean time I know bow hunters that shoot a muledeer buck in that same wmu every year.So how is it fair that some albertans get to shoot a mule deer buck once a year,while I only get to shoot a mule deer buck once every four years?

Why is it fair that Donald Trump has more money than me? Why is it fair that some people get more time off than I do to go hunting? Here is the answer to your question above. Go out buy a bow spend some time learning to shoot it properly and then take advantage of what is available to you. The bow season is available to everyone.

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

I think most wmu's should be on draw for archery,so that the tags and deer numbers are managed better.If your a bowhunter ,then you only hunt with a bow with your archery season draw tag.If your a rifle hunter,then you only hunt with a rifle with your rifle season draw tag.Simple as That!!!

I am pretty sure the people involved in deer management take into account the bow hunters harvest. Sure some species should be on draw. This already takes place Moose comes to mind.


Bubba

[pottymouth]

Man, whitetail junkie, you should be sponsored by Kleenex, for everytime you cry about bows........

go buy a bow ....x2

[gonefishin]

The reason the archery season is longer is because it's a helluva lot harder to get an animal with the bow as compaired to a rifle. Do you seriously think that bow hunters put that big of a dent in the wildlife populations to require archery draws?

I'm still trying to figure out why we need to pay the extra $$$ for a bow hunting licence.

[J Biggs]

white tail junkie.

while your with yur buddys thinkin about stuff think on this ;

guys want teh bow seasen on draw ( you and yur buddys) and to add teh xbow to this seasen is a push by some too

lotsa same guys want a seprate muzzle loder seasen as well

now i am pretty crappy with math but when you devide teh number of draw tags that you wait 4yrs for right now by 3 seasens you wil wait a lot longer for yur mule buck rifle tag. the number of tags remian the same , so the wiat would defnatly be longer

so if you guys get what you want to maek things " fare " i could see a way longer wait for all .

[ehntr]

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

I was just sitting down with some hunting buddies again tonight and my one friends came up with a good point.We all hunt with rifles and apply in the same wmu for muledeer buck and get drawn about every four years,which is a long wait.In the mean time I know bow hunters that shoot a muledeer buck in that same wmu every year.So how is it fair that some albertans get to shoot a mule deer buck once a year,while I only get to shoot a mule deer buck once every four years? I think most wmu's should be on draw for archery,so that the tags and deer numbers are managed better.If your a bowhunter ,then you only hunt with a bow with your archery season draw tag.If your a rifle hunter,then you only hunt with a rifle with your rifle season draw tag.Simple as That!!!

Your friend made no good point. Bow hunters are not another race of people. They are hunters. You are a hunter. Buy a bow, buy some time practising and buy a general mule tag. Simple as that.

[S.A.S]

Lol This thread is a joke. A general tag for bow hunting whitetail? Thats like saying the flames should get a default Stanley cup because Kerry Frasier Facked them over.

[TreeGuy]

For someone who does not bowhunt, you sure have some great ideas on how to manage the sport. I suggest you do a bit of research, grow up, hit the gym hard and maybe next year you'll be able to meet the 40# draw minimum so you can try it yourself.

Tree

[S.A.S]

Originally Posted by TreeGuy

For someone who does not bowhunt, you sure have some great ideas on how to manage the sport. I suggest you do a bit of research, grow up, hit the gym hard and maybe next year you'll be able to meet the 40# draw minimum so you can try it yourself.

Tree

Lol @ Hit the gym HARD to meet the 40 lb Draw Min!

[whitetail Junkie]

Originally Posted by pottymouth

Man, whitetail junkie, you should be sponsored by Kleenex, for everytime you cry about bows........

go buy a bow ....x2

I like that phrase thats funny anyhow, I would probabley go buy a bow,but my family is huge into bird hunting and there's no way i'd give up the time and excitement of bird hunting to go shoot some small racked buck with a bow.not saying huge deer aint shot with an arrow,but your chances of harvesting a trophy buck are 10 times greater with a firearm.And a trophy buck aint no d!nk 125 p&y whitetail.Two years ago I had a mule buck draw and was watching this 200inch buck all year,he disapeared in september.Ran into the guy who I knew was bow hunting the deer and he said he shot him and wounded him,I even looked for the buck with him.never did find the deer and the guy ended up shooting another mule buck that same fall. So with an example like this can you see why my friends and I are alittle bitter.They give 15 rifle buck tags out per year in my wmu,yet this bowhunter killed two that year and he got one last year,and probabley this year also!!! Thats fukin bullsh!t

[whitetail Junkie]

Originally Posted by TreeGuy

For someone who does not bowhunt, you sure have some great ideas on how to manage the sport. I suggest you do a bit of research, grow up, hit the gym hard and maybe next year you'll be able to meet the 40# draw minimum so you can try it yourself.

Tree

I wont need to hit the gym ,because i'll be hunting with my excalibur cross bow

[S.A.S]

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

I like that phrase thats funny anyhow, I would probabley go buy a bow,but my family is huge into bird hunting and there's no way i'd give up the time and excitement of bird hunting to go shoot some small racked buck with a bow.not saying huge deer aint shot with an arrow,but your chances of harvesting a trophy buck are 10 times greater with a firearm.And a trophy buck aint no d!nk 125 p&y whitetail.Two years ago I had a mule buck draw and was watching this 200inch buck all year,he disapeared in september.Ran into the guy who I knew was bow hunting the deer and he said he shot him and wounded him,I even looked for the buck with him.never did find the deer and the guy ended up shooting another mule buck that same fall. So with an example like this can you see why my friends and I are alittle bitter.They give 15 rifle buck tags out per year in my wmu,yet this bowhunter killed two that year and he got one last year,and probabley this year also!!! Thats fukin bullsh!t

So if he can get a shot at the buck, why couldn't you?

[whitetail Junkie]

Originally Posted by S.A.S

So if he can get a shot at the buck, why couldn't you?

Because he wounded it and it died a slow painfull death,before the rifle season opened you tard.

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

I like that phrase thats funny anyhow, I would probabley go buy a bow,but my family is huge into bird hunting and there's no way i'd give up the time and excitement of bird hunting to go shoot some small racked buck with a bow.not saying huge deer aint shot with an arrow,but your chances of harvesting a trophy buck are 10 times greater with a firearm.And a trophy buck aint no d!nk 125 p&y whitetail.Two years ago I had a mule buck draw and was watching this 200inch buck all year,he disapeared in september.Ran into the guy who I knew was bow hunting the deer and he said he shot him and wounded him,I even looked for the buck with him.never did find the deer and the guy ended up shooting another mule buck that same fall. So with an example like this can you see why my friends and I are alittle bitter.They give 15 rifle buck tags out per year in my wmu,yet this bowhunter killed two that year and he got one last year,and probabley this year also!!! Thats fukin bullsh!t

That is truly a sad story. Are you sure the deer died? Did you find the carcass? The horns? Anything to confirm it died or are you just assuming it did. Just because you didn't see it again doesn't mean it died.

As I suggested previously why don't you and your friends try this. Buy a bow, practice with it, buy your bow certificate and hunt mule deer during bow season for the 3 years you wait for another rifle draw. Seems like a logical solution to me. If you choose to hunt birds instead of bow hunting do not complain about the unfairness of the situation. You make the choices you live with them. As I said in my earlier post bow season is open to anybody who wants to use it. No unfairness there.

Bubba

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

Because he wounded it and it died a slow painfull death,before the rifle season opened you tard.

I love it when people have to resort to third grade name calling when a discussion doesn't go their way.

Bubba

[S.A.S]

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

Because he wounded it and it died a slow painfull death,before the rifle season opened you tard.

I was saying if he could get a shot with a bow, why couldn't you get a shot with a bow!

[Private Ear]

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

I was just sitting down with some hunting buddies again tonight and my one friends came up with a good point.We all hunt with rifles and apply in the same wmu for muledeer buck and get drawn about every four years,which is a long wait.In the mean time I know bow hunters that shoot a muledeer buck in that same wmu every year.So how is it fair that some albertans get to shoot a mule deer buck once a year,while I only get to shoot a mule deer buck once every four years? I think most wmu's should be on draw for archery,so that the tags and deer numbers are managed better.If your a bowhunter ,then you only hunt with a bow with your archery season draw tag.If your a rifle hunter,then you only hunt with a rifle with your rifle season draw tag.Simple as That!!!

So you're saying to share the animals and the draws. Maybe there is 75% less bowhunters than Rifle hunters? It could be fair already...

[Heckler]

Would the buck have died any less of a slow painful death if it was wounded by a rifle hunter? A guy can just as easily wound and lose an animal while hunting with a rifle as with a bow, and I doubt very much the bow hunter in question wanted for that to happen. No hunter - at least that I know of anyway - ever wants to wound and lose an animal, period.

[whitetail Junkie]

Originally Posted by Heckler

Would the buck have died any less of a slow painful death if it was wounded by a rifle hunter? A guy can just as easily wound and lose an animal while hunting with a rifle as with a bow, and I doubt very much the bow hunter in question wanted for that to happen. No hunter - at least that I know of anyway - ever wants to wound and lose an animal, period.

I suppose not.I've hunted with a rifle since I was 12 and never wounded one deer,not one,so its hard for me to visulize myself wounding this big buck that I was after. have you ever wounded a deer? have any of you guys that bow hunt ever wounded a deer? Maybe i'm just bitter that I watched and scouted this 200 inch animal all summer and when my 4th year came and it was my turn,the bowhunter wounds another one!!! I think it has left a bitter taste in my mouth.I'm sure buddy did'nt want to wound the deer either,he did looked rather stressed when I met him on the road.There was alot of blood,but it ended in a coulee.I looked a whole winter for that deer's rack,but never did find it,however its an area with remote terrain,so who knows.all i know is that I know every buck in that area and they were all there that november but the real big one???

[steve]

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

I was just sitting down with some hunting buddies again tonight and my one friends came up with a good point.We all hunt with rifles and apply in the same wmu for muledeer buck and get drawn about every four years,which is a long wait.In the mean time I know bow hunters that shoot a muledeer buck in that same wmu every year.So how is it fair that some albertans get to shoot a mule deer buck once a year,while I only get to shoot a mule deer buck once every four years? I think most wmu's should be on draw for archery,so that the tags and deer numbers are managed better.If your a bowhunter ,then you only hunt with a bow with your archery season draw tag.If your a rifle hunter,then you only hunt with a rifle with your rifle season draw tag.Simple as That!!!

thanks for the chuckle

[spoiledsaskhunter]

i still think we should have to draw for all tags, bow, rifle or throwing stones with a slingshot.

when u get drawn, u can hunt in the bow season first if u hunt with a bow.
second season wud be crossbow and u hunt that season with the same tag if u want to
then a muzzloader season, then a rifle season.
if u hunt with all the above weapons, u can hunt the appropriate season with the appropriate weapon, until u take an animal, and then u are done.

the number of tags allocated is a known, and it wudn't matter which weapon u tagged out with

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

I like that phrase thats funny anyhow, I would probabley go buy a bow,but my family is huge into bird hunting and there's no way i'd give up the time and excitement of bird hunting to go shoot some small racked buck with a bow.not saying huge deer aint shot with an arrow,but your chances of harvesting a trophy buck are 10 times greater with a firearm.And a trophy buck aint no d!nk 125 p&y whitetail.Two years ago I had a mule buck draw and was watching this 200inch buck all year,he disapeared in september.Ran into the guy who I knew was bow hunting the deer and he said he shot him and wounded him,I even looked for the buck with him.never did find the deer and the guy ended up shooting another mule buck that same fall. So with an example like this can you see why my friends and I are alittle bitter.They give 15 rifle buck tags out per year in my wmu,yet this bowhunter killed two that year and he got one last year,and probabley this year also!!! Thats fukin bullsh!t

Quit your whining.
You didn't OWN that buck, the guy made a bad shot, it happens with rifles as well , that is the reality.
Forget about " dinks and trophies" that crap doesn't cut it here.
maybe you should find a trophy frum to whine on.
my buddy and I hunt with archery gear waterfowl hunt ,and rifle hunt.
he uses a compound, i use a stick, and have been know to shoot " a buck or two"' with a Hawken rifle.
So what. I don't consider myself superior to anybody, but i don't whine about other guys having some sort of advantage over me.
All this talk about seperate seasons , draw tags, and disadvantages is BS!
I've always hunted with that stuff because I LIKE it, not because it has a separate season or special draw.
Now let's get on with the hunt.....
Cat

[BigRackLover]

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

I was just sitting down with some hunting buddies again tonight and my one friends came up with a good point.We all hunt with rifles and apply in the same wmu for muledeer buck and get drawn about every four years,which is a long wait.In the mean time I know bow hunters that shoot a muledeer buck in that same wmu every year.So how is it fair that some albertans get to shoot a mule deer buck once a year,while I only get to shoot a mule deer buck once every four years? I think most wmu's should be on draw for archery,so that the tags and deer numbers are managed better.If your a bowhunter ,then you only hunt with a bow with your archery season draw tag.If your a rifle hunter,then you only hunt with a rifle with your rifle season draw tag.Simple as That!!!

You what isn't simple - getting from 100 meters to 30 meters (closing the last gap) to get within bow range. Try it.

In my book any game you get with a bow is a trophy.

[packhuntr]

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

I suppose not.I've hunted with a rifle since I was 12 and never wounded one deer,not one,so its hard for me to visulize myself wounding this big buck that I was after. have you ever wounded a deer? have any of you guys that bow hunt ever wounded a deer? Maybe i'm just bitter that I watched and scouted this 200 inch animal all summer and when my 4th year came and it was my turn,the bowhunter wounds another one!!! I think it has left a bitter taste in my mouth.I'm sure buddy did'nt want to wound the deer either,he did looked rather stressed when I met him on the road.There was alot of blood,but it ended in a coulee.I looked a whole winter for that deer's rack,but never did find it,however its an area with remote terrain,so who knows.all i know is that I know every buck in that area and they were all there that november but the real big one???

Junkie, if youve never wounded and lost a big game animal, you havent logged very much time hunting them, and you havent axed very many of them. You better brace yourself for one of the worst feelings a grown man can have to try to endure.. I will come clean right now,,, yup, I lost a whitetail about 5 years ago,,, it wasnt with my bow either, it was with my semi custom 3500$ 7mm. Chip shot right at 350 and quartering away. By sign, it stayed paunch, it never did slam through and take offside goodies and shoulder. Never did come up with that w/t. Worst part about the deal, it was a high percentage shot, and given the choice to do it again, I can see no reason why I wouldnt. Be careful about how you lay judgment down like you are pal,,, you are not as great or special as you may think. If you wanted my opinion, after laying down as many stupid posts as you have in the middle of good discussion about an important subject, see "crossbow democracy", you may even be a little touched. As far as bow tags going on draw, keep dreaming pal. Till then, do as Treeguy told you to do,,, get pushing hard for that 40# draw minimum and show em all how its done,,, not said.

[209x50]

All archery tags on draw? hmmmm, maybe there are worse things than sharing a season with xbows.

[209x50]

Originally Posted by TreeGuy
For someone who does not bowhunt, you sure have some great ideas on how to manage the sport. I suggest you do a bit of research, grow up, hit the gym hard and maybe next year you'll be able to meet the 40# draw minimum so you can try it yourself.

Tree

I wont need to hit the gym ,because i'll be hunting with my excalibur cross bow

Don't let the big balled "I'm a special kind of hunter" strut bother you, it is ingrained in some in high school locker rooms and they never grow up from it.

[solocam]

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

I was just sitting down with some hunting buddies again tonight and my one friends came up with a good point.We all hunt with rifles and apply in the same wmu for muledeer buck and get drawn about every four years,which is a long wait.In the mean time I know bow hunters that shoot a muledeer buck in that same wmu every year.So how is it fair that some albertans get to shoot a mule deer buck once a year,while I only get to shoot a mule deer buck once every four years? I think most wmu's should be on draw for archery,so that the tags and deer numbers are managed better.If your a bowhunter ,then you only hunt with a bow with your archery season draw tag.If your a rifle hunter,then you only hunt with a rifle with your rifle season draw tag.Simple as That!!!

What's your beef with bow hunters if you think its so easy to get one every year go out and buy a bow,bow hunters don't get to hunt the rut in november. so quit your crying all the time its getting old junkie.

[Hunter Trav]

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

I suppose not.I've hunted with a rifle since I was 12 and never wounded one deer,not one,so its hard for me to visulize myself wounding this big buck that I was after. have you ever wounded a deer? have any of you guys that bow hunt ever wounded a deer? Maybe i'm just bitter that I watched and scouted this 200 inch animal all summer and when my 4th year came and it was my turn,the bowhunter wounds another one!!! I think it has left a bitter taste in my mouth.

Three years ago I did wound and lose a trophy mulie buck which would have easily been in the 180" range. Beautiful deer which I had watched all summer. I set my sights on him, and only him. Second day of the season I got my chance, made the stalk, and when I shot my arrow deflected off a branch and hit him too far forward. I gave him time to expire, but not enough I guess cause as I approched the spot where I watched him bed down, he got up and took off, and that was the last time I seen him. I searched for a couple of weeks trying to find him. I even asked the landowners to keep an eye out for any sign of the buck, and I was commended by the landowners wife for being so diligent in trying to find that deer. To this day that image of that arrow hitting him still haunts me. So basically what it comes down to is that you were beaten to the punch, the guy messed up the shot, and you didn't get a chance at him and you need to suck it up princess. Like others have said, if you want more chances at those deer you watch all summer, get a bow, practice up, and be the first one out of the gate when its time to get them. It sucks wounding any animal, and you said yourself the guy seemed really bothered by the whole deal, but hey, sh*t happens my friend, and there ain't too much you can do about it when it does.

[buckbrushoutdoors]

eveyone in there lifetime will lose a deer, if you hunt enough. it happens dont blame the other guy for getting out there, you said hes shoots a deer with his bow every year, that to me sounds like one heck of a good hunter and bow hunter. Mabe your jelous of his abiltity as hunter

there are some crazy good bow hunters out there and my hat goes off to anyone who can consistantly put a deer on the ground. I think the draw system works perfect here in alberta i love being able to go down south and chase some good bucks in the coulees every year and if you took up the sport im sure you would also get the rush and obsession that comes with hunting with a stick and string

good luck and keep an open mind we are all hunters and need to stick together

[whitetail Junkie]

Originally Posted by packhuntr

Junkie, if youve never wounded and lost a big game animal, you havent logged very much time hunting them, and you havent axed very many of them. You better brace yourself for one of the worst feelings a grown man can have to try to endure.. I will come clean right now,,, yup, I lost a whitetail about 5 years ago,,, it wasnt with my bow either, it was with my semi custom 3500$ 7mm. Chip shot right at 350 and quartering away. By sign, it stayed paunch, it never did slam through and take offside goodies and shoulder. Never did come up with that w/t. Worst part about the deal, it was a high percentage shot, and given the choice to do it again, I can see no reason why I wouldnt. Be careful about how you lay judgment down like you are pal,,, you are not as great or special as you may think. If you wanted my opinion, after laying down as many stupid posts as you have in the middle of good discussion about an important subject, see "crossbow democracy", you may even be a little touched. As far as bow tags going on draw, keep dreaming pal. Till then, do as Treeguy told you to do,,, get pushing hard for that 40# draw minimum and show em all how its done,,, not said.

Your right about a couple things,I hav'nt wounded a deer and I hav'nt logged much time hunting because i'm only twenty five years old.But I have "axed" 14 whitetail bucks and 3 muledeer bucks with my rifle.That sucks about the whitetail you wounded a few years back,I hope that I never have to go through that.