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Isn’t that the scenario that Dwight uses as a reason for not managing wolf populations? If you kill them there will be more of them? Let them eat all of the ungulates and when there’s none left they’ll move somewhere else and do the same thing? I don’t profess to be an expert about wolves, but what about other scenarios, like if you trap the juveniles in the pack and not both alpha wolves there’d be fewer of them. |
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Frankly, I worry more about bears and the real impact they have on moose and elk than I do wolves. |
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I think you should have your story straight before you spout off |
to be fair, an areas' state of wildlife is not necessarily up to the trappers activity for one; the 'trapper' you seek, he's the area's 'specialist' active or no.. two and third, i think this post has brought up Many points...
i met that guy, he was a grizzled old trapper using an... Alpine.(For those of you that dunno that's a really old sled, goes OMG slo but Great for hilly terrain). told me that he trapped, but season was overun early due to... wolves. Why i bring up the sled? what's he mean 'overun'? - he told me that due to his marten trapping being pillaged and seeing less sign (remember, -83% overall species population), that he was unable to make it a successful season; marten market loss - ie: because he was set in his ways and lacking the necessary support.. an Alpine FFS!! :sign0161: he could not do a Proper job. ...not his fault really, the RFMA system were originally developed to supply said trapper And his family a comfortable living opportunity While doing the public a benefit by providing management and a specialist in said RFMA. |
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Dark coloured horns I find are more abundant in rams that live in the trees. Not much for trees on the mine. |
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So why dont people just go and hunt these wolves without bait... noob question i know but id be willing to make up a drive and take out a few if it is reasonable effort to hunt without bait
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The discovery from Wayne.
He came across a downed Moose out west his first reaction was the Wolves got her since they trampled the snow pack all around. He tracked back into the to find the battle grounds where it first started,,, something didn't seem right as there was a long wide drag trail in the snow. It was there that he realized that a Grizzly jumped it. This Cow might of been ill or wonded and not able to fend off the attack. She made it close to the edges of the clearing. Once she expired the Grizzly drug her back into the trees as far as it could he's thinking Purhaps to bury it under the log pile close by. The Grizzly ate what it wanted and probably left for the time been. The packs are thick in these areas, they could of picked up on the sent and moved in on it. Wayne said later that he was pretty sure the Gizz got it down, the Wolves came along latter. Some folks that would of come across this might of thought the Wolves took it down from looking at the feeding grounds much like he thought. Lucky thing is that my friend has keen eyes of trying to peace together what is what as he could of missed out on the clues left behind. This is what he said at the end of his story... Sometimes Wolves get blamed for the kills in many cases,,, this happens because of the massive amounts of tracks at these kill sights,,, with out tracking back or around even I can miss out on other predators that "could" of been the original contributer to the take down,,, then maybe the Wolves came along later. Don't know as I wasn't there. This makes me wonder how many Deer, sheep, younger calves of Elk and Moose fall prey to Cougars. It's been said that Cats "normally eat fresh kills only." I wonder how many fall prey to these big cats since the forests are full of them. I believe that all predator hang a licking on hooved animals,,, I get wondering my self now what predator it was that really did the kill before others come along for the feast. Don |
Don , the cats are an issue. My buddy hunts cats and there are some right around the town of Cadomin often enough. He says that they can't let the dogs loose because they will most likely end up on the mine chasing the cat and end up in trouble so they don't bother.
I bet there are a lot of areas like this where you just can't risk it so the predators are safe. Why can't fish and wildlife help out in these situations and find a way to legally take out some of the predators on the mine. Hire a worker of the mine to aid in making sure things go smoothly and nobody gets hurt. Take out a few cats around there with a couple houndsmen and save a few sheep. Wolves do get blamed for a lot I know but I think I mentioned it earlier that I have seen wolves the last 2 times out there and both times on the mine. I doubt they stray far from the boundary as they got whatever they need right there. |
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