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The next time someone says "if the hook is too deep, leave it in and it will dissolve"
You show them this.
Imagine what these animals go through, when a hook goes through them.
I generally put back fish this size, but when I saw the 2nd line sticking out of her mouth I knew there was a hook deep. I didn't know until I got home just how deep it was.
There may have been a time where the old untreated hooks 'dissolved'  in time, but I had my doubts. With these new chemically sharpened and treated hooks, now I really doubt.
Also, just an ethical thought here, but using the smallest lightest line just to say you caught a 8 lb fish on 2 lb line is ridiculous. Pease use some common sense. Fish may not scream cry and grunt like other dying and suffering animals, but I bet they feel pain. Buy quality fluorocarbon and quit being a tough guy.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought..... 
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01-22-2013, 09:07 PM
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This kind of post always make me laugh.
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01-22-2013, 09:07 PM
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This kind of post always make me laugh.
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do tell. Hilarious that the fish suffered while the hook passed through? Or that someone cares about animals and ethics?
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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01-22-2013, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette
You show them this.
Imagine what these animals go through, when a hook goes through them.
I generally put back fish this size, but when I saw the 2nd line sticking out of her mouth I knew there was a hook deep. I didn't know until I got home just how deep it was.
There may have been a time where the old untreated hooks 'dissolved' in time, but I had my doubts. With these new chemically sharpened and treated hooks, now I really doubt.
Also, just an ethical thought here, but using the smallest lightest line just to say you caught a 8 lb fish on 2 lb line is ridiculous. Pease use some common sense. Fish may not scream cry and grunt like other dying and suffering animals, but I bet they feel pain. Buy quality fluorocarbon and quit being a tough guy.
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Gawd,Thats got to hurt.Brings new meaning to pain in the azz.
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"Me neither but it's all in the eye of the beer holder"
norwestalta
.....out of bounds.....but funny none the less!
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"Funny how when a bear eats another bear, no one bats an eye, but......
when a human eats another human, people act like it's the end if the friggin world. News coverage, tweets, blogs, outrage, Piers Morgan etcetc.
Go figure." -Huntinstuff
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01-22-2013, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by vcmm
Gawd,Thats got to hurt.Brings new meaning to pain in the azz.
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You watch, before long some pinhead is going to come in and say 'what's the problem? It went through without damaging the fish"
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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01-22-2013, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette
You watch, before long some pinhead is going to come in and say 'what's the problem? It went through without damaging the fish"
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I would'nt take that bet.Sure as the sun is going to come up.
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"It's like bragging that it's 10 CENTIMETERS LONG! (when really, it's 4" dude, settle down)"
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"Me neither but it's all in the eye of the beer holder"
norwestalta
.....out of bounds.....but funny none the less!
LC
"Funny how when a bear eats another bear, no one bats an eye, but......
when a human eats another human, people act like it's the end if the friggin world. News coverage, tweets, blogs, outrage, Piers Morgan etcetc.
Go figure." -Huntinstuff
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what's the problem? It went through without damaging the fish
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01-22-2013, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ericlin0122
This kind of post always make me laugh.
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Can't be humane and be a hunter/fisher? Accidents happen and lines break but he still brings up valid points.
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01-22-2013, 09:14 PM
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All in all he looks rigged and ready to go for pike under a tip up. Cool pics though ken.. never seen it before
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what's the problem? It went through without damaging the fish
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"It's like bragging that it's 10 CENTIMETERS LONG! (when really, it's 4" dude, settle down)"
Huntinstuff
"Me neither but it's all in the eye of the beer holder"
norwestalta
.....out of bounds.....but funny none the less!
LC
"Funny how when a bear eats another bear, no one bats an eye, but......
when a human eats another human, people act like it's the end if the friggin world. News coverage, tweets, blogs, outrage, Piers Morgan etcetc.
Go figure." -Huntinstuff
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01-22-2013, 09:18 PM
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Dissolving fish hook just got googled many times........
damn ABB 
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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01-22-2013, 09:20 PM
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I bet he feels very fortunate that you saved him
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Ouch. I quess you could say proof is in the puddin on this one eh
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01-22-2013, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffrey929
I bet he feels very fortunate that you saved him
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Oh. Ha. Haaaaa....
It's a she, can't you read?
Way to miss the point completely.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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Originally Posted by C Taylor
Ouch. I quess you could say proof is in the puddin on this one eh
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Ya poor little bugger, imagine that working all the way through.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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I bet he feels very fortunate that you saved him
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Ironic isn't it.
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01-22-2013, 09:30 PM
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From now on I intend to go sit on the ice or in my boat and wait for the fish to give up and decide they would like to come home with me... If i get skunked at least i will know I did nothing to harm them
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01-22-2013, 09:34 PM
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Caught a big Cutt with line hanging out his azz once. Not a pretty sight, i knew there was a hook in him... But he fought hard and was extremely healthy looking! Im not saying he wasnt hurtin. Its amazing how tough animals are, you have to think how a human would react to something like that! Personally im the kinda guy that is gonna do the surgery and get the hook out before i leave it in, wheather the fish makes it or not...thats just how i roll. I cant remember the last time that happened. Part of the game... All you can do is feel good about getting a good hook set in the lip, and a clean release on a little brookie, and hope that maybe that hook in that fish came from a kid that lost his "biggest brookie" and now has a love for fishing, and maybe learned something...
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Geez Ken, how long did you play that fish for? 
So, if the fish swallows the hook, what should someone do?
There are a lot of hazards to fish when fishing.....
Remember that time the line broke bottom bouncing for walleye/burbs/whatever? what happened to the baited hook?
There is inherent risks to fish when trying to hook them in the face. One just has to mitigate those risks as well as they can. Otherwise we would have to stop using hooks and just be happy when a fish bites the lure.
Good to know that modern hooks aren't likely to dissolve very quickly.
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From now on I intend to go sit on the ice or in my boat and wait for the fish to give up and decide they would like to come home with me... If i get skunked at least i will know I did nothing to harm them
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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01-22-2013, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BeeGuy
Geez Ken, how long did you play that fish for?
So, if the fish swallows the hook, what should someone do?
There are a lot of hazards to fish when fishing.....
Remember that time the line broke bottom bouncing for walleye/burbs/whatever? what happened to the baited hook?
There is inherent risks to fish when trying to hook them in the face. One just has to mitigate those risks as well as they can. Otherwise we would have to stop using hooks and just be happy when a fish bites the lure.
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Lol, about 3 seconds. 
fish swallows hook? Kill and eat it.
I agree completely about mitigating risks, the biggest reason for the thread.
My biggest point in the thread, and I know you caught it, was respect nature.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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To respect nature, one should leave it in it's own environment, risk free of being hunted or caught and eaten... You caught a fish, you killed a fish... Not very respectful...
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Interestingly,
Although a couple fish pics have been posted where the fish has a hook stuck somewhere in it, there can be no pics of fish with a dissolved hook in it.
Perhaps some hooks do dissolve, there just isn't any evidence left for us.
Or maybe gut hooked fish usually die...
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01-22-2013, 09:43 PM
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To respect nature, one should leave it in it's own environment, risk free of being hunted or caught and eaten... You caught a fish, you killed a fish... Not very respectful...
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Sorry sport, you are wrong. Ethical harvest, look it up.
PETA member? Wow are you trolling the wrong forum.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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If you hook an undersize fish bad there are really 2 things to do...
....try to get the hook out and risk killing it in the process (you have to let it go legally anyhow).
....or cut the line as close to the hook as you can, limit the time it is out of the water, and hope it disolves or finds another way out....you have to release the fish anyway legally.
BUT....if it is of legal size and in a lake that allows harvest....then keep it.
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Well it looks like he was almost done digesting the hook.
If you didn't catch him he would have been fine.
No big deal. Don't like it... Stop fishing your self and find a new hobbie like, Flying a kite in the wind.
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I'm not the one pounding the respect drum... I enjoy fishing more than you can imagine and do my absolute best to do what is right... but sometimes, bad things will happen to good fish... if you are going to fillet it, try to enjoy it, and not be so preachy
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Originally Posted by Pikehunter13
Well it looks like he was almost done digesting the hook.
If you didn't catch him he would have been fine.
No big deal. Don't like it... Stop fishing your self and find a new hobbie like, Flying a kite in the wind.
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Lol go fly a kite? You just said that? Ethics be damned, huh?
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I'm not the one pounding the respect drum... I enjoy fishing more than you can imagine and do my absolute best to do what is right... but sometimes, bad things will happen to good fish... if you are going to fillet it, try to enjoy it, and not be so preachy
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But of course you do, no one does more than you to be right. If you don't like the sermon hit the bricks. But thanks for your repeated snotty input.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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I guess that I should... you have clearly taken all the fish and are going home
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