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03-18-2014, 03:05 PM
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$177000 each per year
there better use for this money.
other news, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty quit Prime Minister Stephen Harper's cabinet , going to to return to the private sector .
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MONTREAL — Each prisoner in Canada's 54 federal penitentiaries costs taxpayers $117,788, up 46% from a decade ago, says a new report.
A federal public safety ministry document says federal corrections spending reached a peak of $2.7 billion in 2013, or $1.1 billion more than in 2002-2003.
There were 2,082 more inmates serving sentences longer than two years compared with a decade ago.
Five-hundred additional corrections officers were hired to watch them, the document said.
Canada's worst criminals are more expensive to house than other inmates, costing taxpayers up to $151,000 a year.
As of April 14, 2013, 579 women were incarcerated in federal prisons at an annual cost of $211,618 each, according to the document.
Prisoner-rights activist Jean-Claude Bernheim told QMI Agency that Ottawa might be able to control spending by privatizing some prisons, as some U.S. states have done.
He said the Tories' tough-on-crime push has caused the spike in spending.
"We're starting to see the effects of the Conservative government's measures," he said. "Sentences are longer, the Criminal Code now provides mandatory minimum sentences for many offenses, and that has to overflow into the penitentiaries."
Incarceration by the numbers
$322 - average daily cost of a prisoner in a penitentiary ($221 in 2001-'202)
$117,788 - average annual cost of a prisoner in a penitentiary in 2011-2012
$151,484 - annual cost of a prisoner in maximum security
$104 889 - annual cost of a prisoner in medium security
$91,959 - annual cost of a prisoner in minimum security
7,695 - number of corrections officers in federal prisons
$78.76 - amount paid per Canadian, per year, to fund the federal prison system
Prisoner Profile
Number of inmates in federal penitentiaries:
As of April 14, 2013: 14,745
In 2002: 12,663
Age of inmates:
18-29: 40.5%
30s: 27.5%
40s: 19.4%
50-69: 11.7%
70+: 0.8%
2,823 incarcerated for murder
479 dangerous offenders serving indefinite sentences
58% of inmates are white
23% are aboriginal
36% are Catholic
15% are Protestants
5% are Muslims
Source: Correction Service Canada
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03-18-2014, 03:08 PM
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Do they get wildtv?
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03-18-2014, 03:11 PM
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Well... everyone thought that the stupid on crime omnibus bill was better than prevention or being smart about it.
Cost increases were predicted.
Texas even tried to warn us that it was a mistake....
Texas for Gods sake....
People get what they want and then complain about it.
Everything that government touches ends up being less for more.
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03-18-2014, 03:15 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: edmonton
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could've subcontracted( let me rephrase that, outsource ) to mexico for less ... and they know how to control overpopulation .. and if there was a prisoner escapes its will be mexico's problem
Last edited by fishtank; 03-18-2014 at 03:35 PM.
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03-18-2014, 03:17 PM
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Location: Quesnel BC Canada
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Outsource...they could build jails in China, India and even Pakistan that could house those criminals for a fraction of what they are spending here....outsource the convicts and lay off or terminate, the unionized jail guards, cops, judges, lawyers, parole officers, parole boards, rights advocates and anyone else associated with the criminals free housing.
Enough talk about being tough of crime it's time for some action on it....let them live in wall tents near the north pole...
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03-18-2014, 03:49 PM
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Sheriff Joe Arpio had his budget on line.
I wonder what his cost/prisoner is.?
Nothing wrong with green baloney and day old bread.
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03-18-2014, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by greylynx
Sheriff Joe Arpio had his budget on line.
I wonder what his cost/prisoner is.?
Nothing wrong with green baloney and day old bread.
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his budget is laden with litigation expenses for many of his policies too.
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03-18-2014, 04:45 PM
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So I better select an offence to commit before changes are made?
After all I was hoping to serve my term in Canada.
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03-18-2014, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild&Free
his budget is laden with litigation expenses for many of his policies too.
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I would rather pay the litigation fees and have the prisoners treated like they ought to be, than to have them treated the way they are here.
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03-18-2014, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mickey
I would rather pay the litigation fees and have the prisoners treated like they ought to be, than to have them treated the way they are here.
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I think you might be surprised at what the inside of a prison really looks like and how things work.
Aside from that...if you want people to be corrected in order to reduce repeat visits... you sort of have to treat them better than animals.
You can't have it both ways.
Punishment alone does not deter or prevent crime.
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03-18-2014, 07:53 PM
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Location: Edmonton
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Originally Posted by Mickey
I would rather pay the litigation fees and have the prisoners treated like they ought to be, than to have them treated the way they are here.
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seriously? tie up the courts with bad police work or have the courts trying actual criminals...
sure, his approach has merit, don't get me wrong. He's violated many laws however, more then the RCMP in High River and you support the man.
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We learn from history that we do not learn from history. - Hegel
Your obligation to fight has not been relieved because the battle is fierce and difficult. Ben Shapiro
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03-18-2014, 07:54 PM
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Best $78 I spent this year.
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03-18-2014, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild&Free
his budget is laden with litigation expenses for many of his policies too.
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Those law suits are by liberals who love criminals running around.
The people of Phoenix and area still love him.
Try to dispute that.
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03-18-2014, 08:16 PM
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Safety has a price and I personally don't mind paying to keep dangerous animals in cage.
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03-18-2014, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BeeGuy
Do they get wildtv?
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No. Having to watch wildbites was deemed cruel and unusual punishment.
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03-18-2014, 08:35 PM
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Location: Edmonton
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Originally Posted by greylynx
Those law suits are by liberals who love criminals running around.
The people of Phoenix and area still love him.
Try to dispute that.
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I can't.
Doesn't change the fact he's broken numerous laws.
American's are famous for supporting law breakers though. Look at their government.
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Respond, not react. - Saskatchewan proverb
We learn from history that we do not learn from history. - Hegel
Your obligation to fight has not been relieved because the battle is fierce and difficult. Ben Shapiro
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03-18-2014, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by traderal
Best $78 I spent this year.
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x2 YUP! Hey, I'd be okay with paying an extra $200 or $300 if the government was willing to hand out stiffer sentences to keep repeat offenders off of the street. A life sentence should mean, at least, a minimum of 25 years before you become eligible for parole, not 10 or 12 years and out. Just look at the sentences handed out for serious crimes, it's a friggen joke!
I don't believe in jailing everyone for everything like the US, but Canada is away too soft on serious crimes IMO.
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03-18-2014, 11:44 PM
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Gone Hunting
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If we are ever going to win the war on crime, we need to legalize everything.
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03-18-2014, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Redfrog
If we are ever going to win the war on crime, we need to legalize everything.
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03-19-2014, 12:00 AM
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Bellero
Safety has a price and I personally don't mind paying to keep dangerous animals in cage.
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Agreed!
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03-19-2014, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by greylynx
Those law suits are by liberals who love criminals running around.
The people of Phoenix and area still love him.
Try to dispute that.
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Okay mostly who loves him are the oldsters from everywhere else that are allowed to vote in the elections but are not natives of Phoenix or reside long enough to vote. Because he's a big shot with Fox News, Michele Bachman and Steven seagal he's got lots of dinero ooops money to campaign in every election even though he champions states rights, constitutional law etc most of his money comes from out of state. He's a media hound that ignores real actual crimes and focuses on arresting illegals so he can say how many thousands of people he incarcerated that year of the election. He's a sideshow huckster with a badge. If he was a super cop, budget watcher, hard on crime heck I would love the guy as well. But he's not, he's a racial profiling clown
Hey I want to say though I believe in being tough on criminals I believe in stuff sentences. I believe in capital punishment. I believe in deterrents and serving in minimalistic conditions. But not in this fool. Also not saying illegal immigration isn't a issue. He isn't solving just moving to another area.
'Most of Maricopa counties jail guests don't return' as if it's his policies, no it's because after their sentence they were deported and crossed the next time somewhere else.
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03-19-2014, 12:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfrog
If we are ever going to win the war on crime, we need to legalize everything.
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Monkey knife fights? Because the Feds could make a few bucks from that.
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the days we are at our best we can play with anybody, problem is those days are getting farther and farther apart
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03-19-2014, 07:29 AM
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I'm only spending $78.76 per year on the prison system? I'd gladly double that if they would give reasonable sentences to dangerous or repeat offenders.
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