Catch and release question

[Kgz]

If a person has a limit of fish laying on the ice, can you legally continue to c&r that species ?

[Bigdad013]

yes u can

[McLeod]

but in a national park you would have to stop fishing when you keep your limit. Of course there would not be fish on the ice because there is no Ice fishing allowed.

[Sundancefisher]

Only problem is that if you mortally wounded one after killing your limit you MUST release the dead/dying last fish back into the water. No culling and no retention. You would have to keep releasing all injured fish till you were done fishing. Poses its own ethical dilemma.

[Couleestalker]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Only problem is that if you mortally wounded one after killing your limit you MUST release the dead/dying last fish back into the water. No culling and no retention. You would have to keep releasing all injured fish till you were done fishing. Poses its own ethical dilemma.

So then why even go fishing? What if you are strictly sport fishing (catch and release only). What if you mortally hook a fish that has no keep limit? Why is it that the guy who wants to keep a fish to eat and still have fun by catching more and releasing must look at his ethics and morals but the guy who wants to catch and release only can do it all day long with nobody questioning his ethics?

[AppleJax]

Originally Posted by Couleestalker

So then why even go fishing? What if you are strictly sport fishing (catch and release only). What if you mortally hook a fish that has no keep limit? Why is it that the guy who wants to keep a fish to eat and still have fun by catching more and releasing must look at his ethics and morals but the guy who wants to catch and release only can do it all day long with nobody questioning his ethics?

Good point.

[AdverseCity]

There's all sorts of scenarios like this that can and will come up if you fish long enough. If there's a limit of 5 try keeping only 4 and save a spot for the one you might hook too deeply. If there's no limit then try to avoid bait or at least use a larger hook to reduce the chance of them swallowing it. Using a camera will help you to avoid hooking the little ones or species you don't want to catch. Eventually you will probably be forced to release a fish that will likely die soon after, just do what you can to minimize the chances of it happening. If it happens every time you go fishing then you need to change something.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Only problem is that if you mortally wounded one after killing your limit you MUST release the dead/dying last fish back into the water. No culling and no retention. You would have to keep releasing all injured fish till you were done fishing. Poses its own ethical dilemma.

How is this different than fishing a water body with a size limit? Whether its gonna die or not an undersized fish must be released.

LC

[Couleestalker]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

How is this different than fishing a water body with a size limit? Whether its gonna die or not an undersized fish must be released.

LC

My point exactly. Everyone should just stay home and play video games.

[brown trout]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

How is this different than fishing a water body with a size limit? Whether its gonna die or not an undersized fish must be released.

LC

Agreed, but I also think that as reasonably enlightened people, we can simply try an minimize any unnecessary impact on the lakes. Maybe after catching a limit, if you didn't leave one "buffer fish" or something, stop using bait. This alone can lower unintended hooking mortality of some species, like trout, from about 30% to 40% to about 5% or lower. That's substantial, and if you accidentally hook a fish deep on a small spoon or jig, or puncture a major blood vessel, at least you know you took reasonable measures to limit any chances of that happening.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by Couleestalker

Why is it that the guy who wants to keep a fish to eat and still have fun by catching more and releasing must look at his ethics and morals but the guy who wants to catch and release only can do it all day long with nobody questioning his ethics?

I get your point. But I would also question the ethics of a 100% C&R guy as well if he kept fishing when every second fish he caught rolled over and floated away after he released it. I'd say it was time for him to stop fishing and take a look at his technique (or lack thereof).

[Mutter87]

Here's one to wrap your head around.

If you have your limit, You can not LEGALLY take a picture of any other fish of that species that you catch that day.

A picture of a fish counts as possession. Put it in the "Ask F&W" section if you do not believe me.

While planning the Kayak tournament 2 years ago we were told that a picture counts as possession so certain fish species would not be eligible.

[Wild&Free]

I know in BC that once you have your limit for a species you cannot target that species until you take the fish home. At least that's what I remember reading when I last looked over the regs.

Not sure why you're allowed to keep fishing after catching your limit here.

Like one members signature on here

limit your catch, not catch your limit.

[Mutter87]

Originally Posted by Wild&Free

I know in BC that once you have your limit for a species you cannot target that species until you take the fish home. At least that's what I remember reading when I last looked over the regs.

Not sure why you're allowed to keep fishing after catching your limit here.

Like one members signature on here

limit your catch, not catch your limit.

This is Alberta man, The Viking lifestyle is alive and well here, Rape and Pillage then move on.

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by Mutter87

Here's one to wrap your head around.

If you have your limit, You can not LEGALLY take a picture of any other fish of that species that you catch that day.

A picture of a fish counts as possession. Put it in the "Ask F&W" section if you do not believe me.

While planning the Kayak tournament 2 years ago we were told that a picture counts as possession so certain fish species would not be eligible.

BS

[Mutter87]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

BS

Ask for yourself man, I am not BS'ing you.

Trust me, I think it is quite possibly the dumbest rule I have heard. I would actually like to hear an argument in favor of it, just to see the cons of a picture.

Edit: I call this number 1 877 944-0313 to speak with SRD about it, He will get back to me tomorrow.

[Bigdad013]

Originally Posted by Wild&Free

I know in BC that once you have your limit for a species you cannot target that species until you take the fish home. At least that's what I remember reading when I last looked over the regs.

Not sure why you're allowed to keep fishing after catching your limit here.

Like one members signature on here

limit your catch, not catch your limit.

I don't see that anywhere in the regulations. Now I'm talking BC, as thats where I do most of my fishing Mainly the shuswap. So a guy drives out 5 hours, gets his boat in the water, catches a legal laker in 5 mins, then he should go home. And as for the Shuswap, you need tags to keep any rainbows or lakers, if you don't buy the tag your not allowed any possession. No where does it state you can't fish for them, just have to C&R.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Kgz

If a person has a limit of fish laying on the ice, can you legally continue to c&r that species ?

Pack it up and eat a balogne sandwich...catch another and it dies than what, you caught the limit best not have the fish cops swing by and catch you with a balogne sandwhich and over limit, might loose your sandwich...

[Bigdad013]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

BS

x2 complete BS

[CamoDerrick]

Originally Posted by Mutter87

Here's one to wrap your head around.

If you have your limit, You can not LEGALLY take a picture of any other fish of that species that you catch that day.

So every single picture I have viewed of a sturgeon from Alberta has been done illegally because it is their possession now?

Hmm.... ok

[Mutter87]

Originally Posted by CamoDerrick

So every single picture I have viewed of a sturgeon from Alberta has been done illegally because it is their possession now?

Hmm.... ok

Its not my law, This is what was said 2 years ago while planning a Kayak fishing tournament. I have called SRD and they said they would call me back tomorrow.

[Wild&Free]

Originally Posted by Bigdad013

I don't see that anywhere in the regulations. Now I'm talking BC, as thats where I do most of my fishing Mainly the shuswap. So a guy drives out 5 hours, gets his boat in the water, catches a legal laker in 5 mins, then he should go home. And as for the Shuswap, you need tags to keep any rainbows or lakers, if you don't buy the tag your not allowed any possession. No where does it state you can't fish for them, just have to C&R.

Okay, I just went over a copy of the BC fishing regs online, and we're both right. Since I don't fish for or target lake trout and primarily fished the rivers for steelhead and salmon we both read the regs differently.

You're right in the sense that once you catch your limit you can keep on fishing, unless you happen to be fishing steelhead where there is a hatchery retention limit.

"When you have caught and retained your
daily quota of hatchery steelhead from
any water, you must stop fishing that
water for the remainder of that day"

As far as I know, there are only 2 rivers that were 'near' to where I lived where there was hatchery retention, which was the Kitimat and Yakoun Rivers, neither of which I have fished for steelhead.

My memory was a bit fuzzy, but I was positive there was something like that in the regs.

[Couleestalker]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Pack it up and eat a balogne sandwich...catch another and it dies than what, you caught the limit best not have the fish cops swing by and catch you with a balogne sandwhich and over limit, might loose your sandwich...

So you want to go fishing for sturgeon on the SSR because you heard how awesome it is and they put up a good fight and you've never seen one in real life. The guy beside you catches one and it dies. Do you keep fishing for one or do you pull in your line and eat your sandwich.

[Wild&Free]

Originally Posted by Mutter87

Its not my law, This is what was said 2 years ago while planning a Kayak fishing tournament. I have called SRD and they said they would call me back tomorrow.

If you don't believe him, call SRD yourself to get the truth from the horses mouth. If enough people call this 'law' might get reviewed and thrown off the books. If it is law, I've personally been guilty of 'poaching' many many times in that sense.

Originally Posted by CamoDerrick

So every single picture I have viewed of a sturgeon from Alberta has been done illegally because it is their possession now?

Hmm.... ok

Same with everyone who's posted a sturgeon picture.


It could very well be that for the purpose of a tournament that a photo of a fish counts as possession if fishing a C&R water body, or water body with C&R restrictions on certain species. Specially if it is an 'all species' type of tournament.

[diamonddave]

That's some pretty crazy Kool-Aid you have there Mutter!!

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by Mutter87

Here's one to wrap your head around.

If you have your limit, You can not LEGALLY take a picture of any other fish of that species that you catch that day.

A picture of a fish counts as possession. Put it in the "Ask F&W" section if you do not believe me.

While planning the Kayak tournament 2 years ago we were told that a picture counts as possession so certain fish species would not be eligible.

This sounds a little too much like the old "If you post your land "No Hunting", you can't hunt there yourself" one... I will await F&W getting back to you on this one. It makes no sense at all.

[Wild&Free]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

This sounds a little too much like the old "If you post your land "No Hunting", you can't hunt there yourself" one... I will await F&W getting back to you on this one. It makes no sense at all.

check my response to this, it's the only explanation that makes any sense to me.

[Mutter87]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

This sounds a little too much like the old "If you post your land "No Hunting", you can't hunt there yourself" one... I will await F&W getting back to you on this one. It makes no sense at all.

I agree with you 110%. This is what we were told 2 years ago while planning the tournament and getting the permits.

I will post what I hear tomorrow.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by Mutter87

I agree with you 110%. This is what we were told 2 years ago while planning the tournament and getting the permits.

I will post what I hear tomorrow.

You sure you aren't getting this mixed up with the time you were going to be charged with possession of those other photos????? LOL

[Mutter87]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

You sure you aren't getting this mixed up with the time you were going to be charged with possession of those other photos????? LOL

Ok, that is funny!!! LOL