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Old 02-14-2011, 07:00 PM
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So we are wanting to tile our shower. Ive been advised to use Redgard as water sealant. It says to apply 30mils thick when wet.
How thick is 30 mils?
Is it ok for the Redgard tp contact drywall mud?
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:24 PM
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30 mils is about 1 inch.
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:27 PM
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Never heard of Redgard. Here is a great product to use http://www.schluter.com/8_1_kerdi.aspx Can be applied right over drywall.
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:29 PM
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Try this. Sounds like you're not the only one.

http://www.ridgidforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28119

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Old 02-14-2011, 07:54 PM
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30 mils is about 1 inch.
Thanks for the answer. The 1 galon bucket says that a second coat is to be put on perpendicular to the first coat.

How do you keep an application of 1" thick from running off the wall.?
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30 mils is about 1 inch.
WRONG

You're thinking mm, in which case you're still off. 1 inch is 25.4 mm.

http://www.reade.com/Conversion/mils_to_%20mm.html

Maybe you've heard of 5 mil vapour barrier or mils used as a rating for strength & thickness in garbage bags. 30 mils is about 3/4mm.

The various Schluter membranes are all great products, the only drawback is the exorbitant price you pay for the stuff.
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WRONG

You're thinking mm, in which case you're still off. 1 inch is 25.4 mm.

http://www.reade.com/Conversion/mils_to_%20mm.html

Maybe you've heard of 5 mil vapour barrier or mils used as a rating for strength & thickness in garbage bags. 30 mils is about 3/4mm.

The various Schluter membranes are all great products, the only drawback is the exorbitant price you pay for the stuff.
Thanks for the chart, that helps alot. Wasnt sure if I was going to be able to afford to do the shower if it had to be an inch thick. The stuffs $80 a bucket. Thanks everyone.
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do you need a full bucket?
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Redgard sucks. I am in the trade, and it is at best, the 'cheap and easy' way to be redoing this in about 5 years

Use a quality product like Laticrete 9235 and membrane or Laticrete Hydroban, or better yet, a Schluter Kerdi Kit, and Kerdi Board or Hardie Board.

If you need pricing, give me a PM.
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WRONG

You're thinking mm, in which case you're still off. 1 inch is 25.4 mm.

http://www.reade.com/Conversion/mils_to_%20mm.html

Maybe you've heard of 5 mil vapour barrier or mils used as a rating for strength & thickness in garbage bags. 30 mils is about 3/4mm.

The various Schluter membranes are all great products, the only drawback is the exorbitant price you pay for the stuff.

It's actually well priced.

I can get you a 32x60 shower Kit for 500 bucks.
Add in hardie board to 5' AFF 5 sheets@23.00 =115.00
317 Non Modified thinset for walls and kerdi membrane 2 bags =34.95
Thinset for walls and floor 253 Gold modified 3 bags =64.00
Add tiles and go!
I can do Kerdi for 1.68/sqft if you take the 300sqft roll, or 2.25 on your actual square footage
Schluter Ditra, I would have to look at the pricing as I have CRS right now!
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So we are wanting to tile our shower. Ive been advised to use Redgard as water sealant. It says to apply 30mils thick when wet.
How thick is 30 mils?
Is it ok for the Redgard tp contact drywall mud?
Any other suggestions.
If you are set on using it, apply with an extra fine nap roller. Roll on product in one direction. Let dry, then do another application at 90 degrees to your last rolls.

That will give you the requisite thickness.
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Redgard sucks. I am in the trade, and it is at best, the 'cheap and easy' way to be redoing this in about 5 years

Use a quality product like Laticrete 9235 and membrane or Laticrete Hydroban, or better yet, a Schluter Kerdi Kit, and Kerdi Board or Hardie Board.

If you need pricing, give me a PM.
are u in calgary??

pm me prices please
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If you are set on using it, apply with an extra fine nap roller. Roll on product in one direction. Let dry, then do another application at 90 degrees to your last rolls.

That will give you the requisite thickness.
I was possibly even thinking of doing a third coat. Is that overkill?
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are u in calgary??

pm me prices please
No, I am in Cranbrook B.C.

I can have the items set for pickup at Dal Tile in CGY though. Or bring them up with me on my next trip up for ammo.

Look in Schluter's catalog, and pick the size of kit you want. Let me know which one. 32x60 center or offset drain, 48x48 or 60x60. I will also want ot know what height you want your walls finished at to calculate for Hardie Board or Kerdi board. All the supplies and stuff are dead easy to figure out.
When picking out a Kerdi Kit, the best drain is the stainless steel one. The other finishes are anodized or electroplated on to the stainless. So if you use tilex, eventually the anodizing will pit. All the drains are billet 304SS and really really make the kit what it is. I only wish when i was on the tools years ago that these were available.
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I was possibly even thinking of doing a third coat. Is that overkill?
More will not hurt, but try to keep your overlapping strokes to a minimum. It's tough to set tiles when the membrane is lumped up. Which is why a roller should be used instead of a paintbrush.
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More will not hurt, but try to keep your overlapping strokes to a minimum. It's tough to set tiles when the membrane is lumped up. Which is why a roller should be used instead of a paintbrush.
Thanks. We will probably see how it all goes tomorrow.
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Thanks. We will probably see how it all goes tomorrow.
You are welcome! Post pics when you are finished!
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So we just started to put the tile on tonight. We are using 13" tiles. The mortar bag indicates to use 1/2x1/2x1/2 size trowel. The shower is 3 tiles wide on each side. this seems to be using an awful lot of mortar. The tiles arent heavy, can we get away with a smaller sized trowel and not use a much mortar?
When the tile is stuck to the wall about how much mortar should there be between the wall and tile?
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